NVIDIA makes LHR graphics cards official (Hash Rate Limited)

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Are we sure of that protection is not gonna be breached by day 1?
     
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    I predict day 3.
     
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    This time I doubt it will be breached on day 1. But I doubt we will see MSRP prices for a long time. Since its unlikely manufacturing capacity will be able to meet demand for quite a while. TSMC and other fabs will ask for bids for fab space and only those who pay highest will get their chips manufactured in time (like Apple).
     

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    Has anybody in the UK actually been able to by any current gen top end cards, red or green?
     
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    If the 3080 card i ordered is hrl i wont be purchasing it. I will buy AMD instead. I fully plan on mining with it so i can afford it. I doubt i will be the only one doing this.
     
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    Dunno but I have two 2070supers that I got just over a year ago. One is running in my main system the other is sitting in a backup doing nothing so wondered how much I could get for it. A few resellers seemed to be trying to punt them for upwards of £1300, that's twice what I paid for the card over a year ago. I've never seen that sort of thing happen ever, especially when it comes to tech.
     
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    can you afford the electric bill 320w GPU + PC / cpu etc so say 500w@ 24/7 = in the UK about £4 a day , you either don't care about your electric bill or live with your parents.

    so around ( if you mine 24/7 ) £1500 a year. Or £28 a week.
     
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    The RTX 3000 series is manufactured at Samsung, not TSMC. But in either case, you're probably still right that we won't see MSRP prices for a while.
     
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    depends on the pricing though. if it can be kept at 10+% of MSRP then why not? if LHR edition is still being sold at 3x MSRP now that's when you should cancel it.
     

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    when mining you severely underclock core and OC ram (not too much on 30 series tho)
    when doing this your card will pull around half the power that it does when gaming.
    then you underclock cpu and all the rest, boom, you're in the money.
    I too wouldn't want a non-mining card at this point.
     
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    This are technically different cards I suppose, so the will have market "value" MSRPs I am sure.
     
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    This isnt going to lower demand. Ethereum is just one algorithm. There are dozens that are nearly as profitable. And even if the 3060 LHS was 30MHS for $330, miners would still want them.
    Nvidia is doing this so they can start implementing technology that restricts what you can do with the card so they can segment the market for higher profitability. "Want AI/ML? You have to buy Quadro." They sell thousands of cards directly to chinese miners, they dont care about gamers they care about profit and their years of anti-competitive practices should clue people in on that.
     
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    Like others said, miners will be all over these regardless, eth is not the only crypto people mine. I bet I won't see one bellow the price of "vanilla" 3000 cards here when they launch, which is 4-5x MSRP.
     

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    I know Nvidias initial contracts were with Samsung, but its not a permanent or exclusive thing. They also have deals with TSMC where a good part of their 2021 production will come from.
     
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    Hashrate limited cards released at the end of the Crypto bull market, what a timing LMAO
     
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    The end? Last week i made near one hundred euros on a 2080ti.
     
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    Every attempt to slow down this crypto madness is appreciated, but this is not enough. There should be world-wide ban for crypto to real money exchanges. That is the only way how to stop this.
     
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    to play devils advocate nvidia does not think things into existence .... to make a change in the silicon level needs design and validation some limited test validation runs and when they are sure things work as expected then release ...those kind of things take TIME you can not just release something overnight
     
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