NVIDIA keynote and GeForce RTX 40 GPU / DLSS 3.0 announcements

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  1. Dragam1337

    Dragam1337 Ancient Guru

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    As i said - it will likely look appaling, way worse than regular dlss, which is already a downgrade to image quality.

    I for one have no intention of using it.
     
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  2. Undying

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    It would be interesting seeing how 4090 handles things natively.
     
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  3. Denial

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    Then don't? It's an option - but I think the point is that the future of graphics is going this way whether people want it or not and if it isn't Nvidia doing it, game/engine developers are pushing similar tech internally that in most cases isn't an option. So it's just going to be the way things are. Hopefully it will improve where the artifacting is gone.
     
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    Thats not true.

    Nvidia was giving a discount of around 13% on the Eurozone countries (Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain)

    In Germany the 3080Ti had $1241 MSRP (1089€), with VAT, and the price was set in 2021 when exchange rate was 1€ to $1.14.

    Without VAT the value was $1035 while in USA was $1200 (13.7% discount). If Nvidia was doing direct pricing of the exchange rate the 3080Ti in Germany should be 1252€ not 1089€. And today as I write this post, the price should have been $1440/1440€. But is not. Is 1089€

    This year, 2022, Nvidia decided to remove the discount, on the EU market and even add a 2% on top of the US market prices.
     

  5. Dragam1337

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    Absolutely agree !
     
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    AMD drivers are fine. Since switched to AMD back in 2018 rarely had a problem with 2 different GPUs. (Vega 64 and 5700XT since 2019). And wrote rarely because May 2019 drivers had a small issue with the Vega 64 undervolting stability, so kept the April 2019 drivers until the June 2019 drivers came out. After that switched to 5700XT.
     
  7. Dragam1337

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    Going by hardware numbers, it could be as much as 90 % faster at 8k, and like 70% at 4k.

    Shall indeed be interesting to see ! But really, the 4090 is the only worthwhile 4000 cards - the others are SUBSTANTIALLY worse... so much so that im willing to bet that the 4080 16gb will only be a bit faster than a 3080 12gb at native 4k.

    I came across a bit of a problem though... the 4090 strix is ridiculously huge (36 cm long), much more so than the 3090... just measured inside my case, and there will only be an inch of clearance for air to pass through between gpu and the 5.25" drive cage in the front

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    Either i will have to mod my cosmos 2 further (already modded a fair bit) and remove as minimum the bottom of the 5.25" drive cage, or buy a new case... which i'd rather not.
     
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    If you are seriously considering 4090 strix you'll have to get a new case. Yours looks pretty dated and that ODD bay restricts airflow. With 660W 4090 strix other components will cook inside as well. So you need serious airflow case. I recommend https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/torrent/torrent/black-tg-dark-tint/
     
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  9. CPC_RedDawn

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    He makes a really good point. DLSS 3.0 is gonna be a weird one indeed, the latency issue is going to crop up a lot and its going to confuse a lot of people.

     
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    Yeah, how about no... im gonna guess that you dont even know what case the cosmos 2 is.

    And fun fact - i get lower temps on my 3090 strix than all the reviewers did.

    Only thing that will need to be modded is removing the bottom of the 5.25" cage.
     

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    I see lots of comments about the memory interface and bandwidth,

    keep in mind, by increasing the L2 cache nvidia has removed a bottleneck that was previously only been mitigated by substantially ramping up GDDR bandwidth, AMD did the same with RDNA.
     
  12. Dragam1337

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    Which bit amd in the arse at high res, and will with these "4080" cards aswell - them lowering the bus width and relying on the cache that is.
     
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  13. Meathelix1

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    Holycrap just saw the new price list for Australia, $2959 AUD for a 4090 founders card. So that $4000 holding price was right for AIB cards.

    And the 4080 16gig is $2300 for Founders.

    $2500 was my limit but that was for an AIB 4090 card. Not paying $4000 for something that is only worth $2400.

    I get 140-160 fps in Warzone at 4k with a 3090ti another extra 100 fps would be nice but not at $3000. haha

    Nvidia really smoking the crack this time, mining is over, so they limiting how many they are selling to look like it will be "limited stock"

    The scummy company, I will be watching the stocks of Nvidia fall over the next 6 months. :D
     
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    nvidia stocks are going up up up and won't be stopping because you don't buy one.
     
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    Indeed…the 4090 proffered specs seemed to be derived and marketed from carefully NVIDIA chosen games and applications. All said and done we will not know the real truth and only after dozens of independent reviews have been completed, then we as the readers having cut through what truth is being presented in the storefronts of the tech-channels and what actual buyers have to say who put their money where their mouth is on AMAZON. I also fully agree with your statement about the present OEM card-styling. I wonder though what Asus, Gigabyte or MSI will be charging for their so-called improved 4090 versions? It will propably be all about 3-fan cooling, styling, bling, overcclocking and a cool $1,900 for each seems quite realistic. Until then however I will sit back and hold my breath. I may very well wind-up snagging a 3090ti if that price hits below the $900 line? It will look like a bargain all things considered?
     
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  16. Meathelix1

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    Rofl, wow 2% compared to their -55% I was expecting a 10% increase at least with the announcement and of course, they will go up when releasing a product that is what happens. It's when that product does not sell that crap slides downhill.

    Just wait for it maybe we can look back on this post in 6 months and see who wins. :D Let's bet on it, you delete your account if I win and I will delete mine if you win.
     
  17. Meathelix1

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    Hell, the 3090ti looks like a bargain right now at $1079 USD. Wonder what it will go to on release of the 4090. You can get cheap second-hand ones for a good price as well.

    https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-rtx-3090-ti-gaming-x-trio-24g/p/N82E16814137728
     
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    I tried ATI back in 2009, and their drivers scared me good. I give it a shot again if their new cards cost much less than Nvidia's.
     
  19. Typhon Six Six Six

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    All of us who were right about 3-4 times performance being BS. To the ppl who fell for it again LOL!!
     
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    Amd improved so much its insane. Their drivers are on pair with nvidia if not better.
     

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