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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 Specs Leak

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Over at that one website called Videocardz they leak everything and anything they can. This round what seems to be a spec sheet from an Nvidia presentation confirming pretty much what we told you a fe...

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 Specs Leak
     
  2. Raider0001

    Raider0001 Master Guru

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    I think it should be called 950Ti
     
  3. benq

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    Waiting for 960 Ti
     
  4. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    LOL @ "Effective Memory Speed"

    wth...whats the point?
    Many are fixated on Bandwidth, but virtually no one cares about mem clk

    This 128bit card should beat 384bit 7950/R9 280, and realistically looking 2GB is weakness here, not 128bit or 7Gbps.
    So why are they "fixing" what needs no fixing
    #/confused
     

  5. Horus-Anhur

    Horus-Anhur Member Guru

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    It's just PR BS. The real speed is 7 Gbps, but they know that 128 bits memory bus will cripple the cards performance at higher resolutions and highest settings.

    Add a texture fill rate that is half of a GTX 770, and there will be several situations where the performance will sufer.
     
  6. Alexraptor

    Alexraptor Maha Guru

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    Lets see...

    The GeForce GTX 660 had a 192 bit memory bus.
    The GeForce GTX 760 had a 256 bit memory bus.
    And now...
    The GeForce GTX 960 will have a 128 bit memory bus.... lol wut?

    Honestly, these days with games like Skyrim and what not and texture resolutions up to 4-8k, VRAM and VRAM performance is now more important than ever.
    And today I won't even consider upgrading to a graphics card with anything less than 4GB VRAM
     
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    ruiner13 Member Guru

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    So that "*" next to the memory speed means that they are saying the texture compression makes the speed faster. Um, no - the bus doesn't get any faster, and not every texture will be 30% compressible. That's like saying that my 50Mbps internet is really 100Mbps when I transfer zip files.

    Also, hasn't it been proven that their compression can cause issues of its own? How about a wider bus on the cards w/out compression? Wouldn't that be ideal?
     
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    tsunami231 Ancient Guru

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    I dont like the idea of 128bit bus and as it stand 128bit will never be put in pc of my again, nor will 2 gb gpu, but i really like to see review of these cards from hilbert,
     
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    CalculuS Ancient Guru

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    This thing has to be 130 bucks to have any reasonable performance to price relation. As for right now 200 bucks is retarded for that performance.
     
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    tsunami231 Ancient Guru

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    i wont pay 200$ for x60 series that looks like entry level card Still i intrested in the review. mostly wana see if this "compression" make up for this serious lack of bandwidth that will cripple the gpu when AA/AO and all that stuff is used.
     
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    Dorlor Banned

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    Nvidia are thugs in suits, and will sell you low-end crap at Premium Price, if they can get away with it.
     
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    the premium priced cards are the titan black and titanZ, both of the highest quality money can buy.
    just sayin /playin devils advocate.
     
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    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    well yes, if they are holding a gun to your head and telling you to to buy or else...

    still, that $550 4930k (1.86 billion transistors)
    makes your $700 780 Ti (7 billion transistors, 3GB 7Gbps GDDR5, custom cooler)

    look like a charity giveaway
     
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    ruiner13 Member Guru

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    Sure, if chips were priced by the gate, maybe. X64 chips are far more complex than GPU chips. GPUs have a lot of transistors because a large chunk of the die are compute cores which are all identical. Less complexity but more area than a CPU. Also, the switching frequency on GPUs is about 1/3-1/4 CPUs. That means more expensive materials doping the silicon.
     
  15. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    Be that as it may, you are not really going to argue CPU vs GPU BoM?

    its this
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    vs this
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    With Nvidia making some living, AMD barely any, and the rest of the bunch dead or barely alive - GPU is clearly a cutthroat business.
    So no - no big and easy moneys as implied several posts above
     

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    What a hell is this piece of garbage?! Lol Make it 100$/€ or burn in hell of "Ridiculousness"
     
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    Well, GPUs may be in some way "low margin business" but that was never nVidia case as they stated that they make premium products and are priced as such.

    Manufacturing costs are really extreme these days. Already optimized 28nm HP from TSMC must be at peak price.
    That is likely only reason why 5.2B transistor chip (980) costs what 7.1B one did before (780Ti).
    AMD's R9-290 has 6.2B transistors, nVidia can sell GTX980 at same price and still make more money.
    (but it costs nearly twice as much and definitely twice as much per transistor)

    And as far as 960 goes, 128bit maxwell with 33% bandwidth bonus from compression is still worse than 192bit kepler in any scenario where you need a lot of data.
     
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    After all these let down rumours im more excited to see what AMD brings out it looks like Nvidia is just stalling and filling the market with junk. But its only because they can...
     
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    Sorry but there is R9 280X for 200$ already which is 3GB 384bit card and its around 20% faster than GTX 760 while 960 is 10% faster than 760. The only downside is R9 280X takes much more power to run. There was a little revolution about 970 and 980, 960 looks like a fail and it didn't even came out yet.
     
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    Nvm..
     
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