Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Dec 29, 2014.
Probably not getting released until AMD pushes the 3XX series cards out the door.
They would of been better off cutting shaders from a 970 and using 256 bit bus for that price tag.
wtf 128bit bus again....
There's only so much you can compress the data before you start to lose IQ.....
Nvidia sure seems to be dragging the _60 through the mud these days. There was a time when it actually meant something. The 460 was a beast. So was the 560Ti. Now it's just meh, move up to the _70.
funny thread is funny.
Yeah, i loved my 260 and 460.
It might be alot better than we are expecting though, so who knows.
On my birthday such a crap?? I simply don't deserve this.
It is like old good UT. Those numbers after kill are score for ranking not XP.
Reflex is nice resurrection of Q3A. But I prefer CS 1.6 even while my list of "competitive" fps is pretty huge, since there skill matters.
Back to 960, rethinking this:
750Ti is maxwell - 128bit already, it's price is just below this 960. I do not believe you can pump much more performance from maxwell core on 128bit bus.
Considering what lineup nV has now http://www.geforce.com/hardware and where this may fit properly.
Maybe leak is not right. And it is reasonable to fill current tech hole with 192bit. But more likely 960 will have 256bit bus. And will sit exactly at 770 place.
Looking at mobile 980m - 256bit; 970m - 192bit; 960m - 128bit? This leak looks more like it is about mobile chip.
I know right? I had a 560 until one month ago. That thing would run dx:hr at ultra (aside from aa, which was down to 2x). I got the exact experience with farcry 4 with my 970, except 1. it rarely went above 70 fps, and 2. with the recent patch my card was struggling to go above 50 fps.. It's pretty enraging to see companies failing create decently optimized games. I'm glad I just got the game as a bundle from the card. I would have been really pissed off had I bought it.
Even the GTX460 786mb had 192 buses.
People need to chill out. This card is meant for gamers running at 1920x1080 that have no need to spend extra on a more powerful card. Half the rumors say 2GB 128bit other half say 4GB and 256 bit. Because the way maxwell works with its larger cache it greatly reduces it's use of the memory bus vs previous generations which is why gm204 does so well over only 256 bit even comparing to cards with 384 bit and 512 bit. So even if the card is only 128 bit the optimized cache and the way the architecture works it will be plenty for 1920x1080 still.
Buying any gpu over a gtx 960's power level at only 1920x1080 is basically a waste of money. By the time the 960 is too slow for 1080 gaming multiple generations will have passed and u will want a new generation card by then anyways.
If I wasn't running 2560x1600 I would totally consider this card as my number 1 choice. At my resolution a gtx 980 is really the lowest acceptable performance but really gm200 is needed for consistent 60 FPS + ultra details. So let's just hope this 5870 I have that is breaking down can make it to gm200 vs 390x to see who wins my money.
And you cant compare different architectures to each other. So people comparing fermi and kepler buses to maxwell buses are not valid comparisons. maxwell has an enlarged cache and uses the bus not as heavily as previous generations
Hmm... So the best thing to do right now is to enjoy our holiday and wait for guru3d to get their hands on a 960 and review it this Jan.
I cant believe that people are so naive and still talk about the seemingly low bandwidth.. Hast the current 900 series cards thought you anything?
My old GTX 260 was 448, it's not accurate to compare it to older hardware.
I'm afraid it doesn't shock me at all. We have the same moaning every time, people don't learn.
I'm thinking of producing my own graphics card. It will have a raspberry PI for a GPU but a 20000 MB memory bus, I expect to sell millions.
GTA V bundle anyone?
If it maxes the game out @ 1080P 60fps, sold. Perfect for my htpc.
Well, some of 970/980 owners can take their maxwell memory to 1/2 of clock to simulate bandwidth equating to 128bit bus.
This would be best case scenario (totally overpowered GPU for bus used).
Worst case scenario is 750Ti as nV has no reason to release another maxwell too close to that.
And if you guys are into this little practical bandwidth limitation test, please use 1/2 memory clock and then make 5 exactly same steps towards full clocks.
(this way there is no need to adjust results)
And do not modify GPU clock for consistency. It is wise to bench in actual game instead of benchmarks (3dmark, ...) only apps as benchmarks usually don't require a lot of vram/bandwidth.
And as each may pick different game it will show more scenarios.
I wish they would hurry up and announce the big maxwell, im sick and tired of seeing all this mid range crap. Nvidia thinking were going to buy it, not a bloody chance.
You cant exactly call 900 series midrange if there is not something significantly better out already...