NVIDIA: GeForce GTX 480 was designed to run at high temperatures

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  1. Zareph

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    They had to say that... just a bad excuse
     
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    i wonder how many people are going to post why is my new fermi gtx470/480 is artifacting.

    just hope they used solder blazing
     
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    about the same number of people who buy high end cards without adequate case cooling or dont have basic knowledge of RivaTuner/EVGA Precision etc
     
  6. Wanny

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    I think Ieldra said it all. There's nothing else to say.

    I don't care I'm still gonna grab 470s once they drop in price.
     
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    It annoys me with noobs

    seen this one today

    my i7 980x multiplier is jumping up when gaming -_-

    i mean really REALLY WHAT THE CHRIST !!
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    Where did i say that?
    I just confirmed GTX480 is 25% faster than 5870 on average,and it's very close in a few games with HD5970(especially setup limited games)
     
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    Fermi may be built to run hot, but how are we going to recommend it to noobs like we did the last series?

    I don't want to ask every newbie to take a photo of his case to verify good airflow before I tell him what the best bang for his buck card is. Fermi is hitting well over 100C in cases with bad airflow.
     
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    i want to know 1 thing and this has not been asked yet (i think) but its really important.

    the card is designed to run at high temperatures? great..

    now, what's the maximum limit of the damn card before it throttles? i remember the GTX260/280 etc being something like 105c?

    the Fermi is 105c too? because if it is so then the card isn't heat ready, thats 10c higher than the average high temp seen in games (95c) and will be easily reached in hot temperate countries even if the case has good fans because the room's air is already warm and the fans are sucking warm air in.

    115-120c as the limit would prove the card is really designed to run at hot temps, otherwise, nvidia is just trying to sell us fishes in a water tank.
     

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    Time for enthusiast to mean enthusiast

    nVidia website says 105c for GTX480, then again I wanna see how it fares with temps after release and the supposed bios fix
     
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    The reason why it runs hot is because it consumes so much power and nothing should be designed to consume more power if it doesn't have too. If AMD added a few more shader sets to the 5870, clocked it a bit higher and launched it as a new product - guaranteed it would still have way less power consumption and perform identical to the GTX480.

    Nvidia needs to ditch the one operation per clock per core philosophy and go back to the drawing board with the basics of their architecture. As it currently stands, Fermi needs to be too large in order to extract the performance they need out of it. And that isn't only for heat reasons, but to fix the yield issues they are having too.
     
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    you're right, i just checked the website product spec and its indeed 105c, well thats hardly what i call "designed to run at high temperatures" when you get 90-95c on average.

    two things will happend, either the bios fix will report lower temps but the card is cooking (cheat to sell the cards) or it might lower temps genuinely by 5-10c and that would be good.

    its only a matter of days before we know the truth, i see that some already ordered GTX480s. good. :pc1:
     
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    Several websites already reported what the fix does, it revs the fan up at a lower temp than before. Previously the card would get to like 98c before the fan actually hit 100%, then the card would cool to 92-94, now it hits 100% at like 85 or something, so the temps never actually get to 98 but hover around 92-94 at maximum.

    Edit:
    I was wrong about the numbers but I knew it was something like that. :p
     
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    The Nvidia BIOS fixed has already been tested last week and reviews posted on the internet.

    The heat issue has been fixed and they showed that a GTX 480 at load would hit 87C MAX. i dont have a link but it was posted on this forum last week..

    Edit--
    nvm here is the article: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1264/1/
     
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    another thing, according to the specs

    GTX480 = 250 W

    GTX280 = 236 W

    unless the specs are not true, i'd like to know how the card consumes more power, that's just 14w more, its nothing.

    some here complain about 400w, if i understood it correctly, the 400w+ is the TOTAL system power usage, not just the card, right?

    must've missed that then, thanks. :)
     
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    That's good then 87c is standard.
     
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    Tell me about it .. my 8800GT reached 105c once :O on stock clocks .. thats when i got myself a HR03GT, and load temps are ~60c now .. ftw ... wonder how the gtx470 will do with a hr03gt .. thermalright already has sets coming out ..
     
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    lol @ nV making excuses.

    lol at the 480 being 25% faster. On ave is was between 10-15%.
    480 as is a FAIL. Once they sort out the die issues with less thermal and wattage then it would be a great card. As is, best to skip the first rev.
     
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