NVIDIA GeForce Ampere 3DMark Time Spy Benchmarks show it to be 30 percent faster than RTX 2080 Ti

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  1. Dragam1337

    Dragam1337 Ancient Guru

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    Well you are right - but i'm just saying that price really isn't the main concern for the top product. The main disappointment with the 2080 ti was the lack of performance increase, which made people rage over how much they charged for that small performance increase. But let's say the 3080 ti was 100% faster at 2000 USD, i'd deffo get one. At 10000 usd... probably not. But if it's only 30% faster, then i'm not sure i will get it regardless of price, due to the underwhelming performance increase.

    I felt the exact same way about the 2080 ti btw, but yeah... no alternative if you wanted more gpu performance, even if it wasn't much.
     
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  2. lukas_1987_dion

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    As owner of RTX 2080Ti, I am slightly disappointed, but if this is RTX 3080 results - not bad performance, but if it's RTX 3080Ti or RTX 3090... If the price will be the same or higher than RTX 2080Ti I will stay with it a little longer than expected lol
     
  3. alanm

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    Also keep in mind that they may still be tweaking performance, vram and clock speeds, driver optimizations so could end up a bit better than that.
    Even if its a 3080ti score, if they achieve a dramatic RT perf jump they may still be able to pull off a win, esp if pricing is better than Turing.
     
  4. PrMinisterGR

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    Everything depends on the price and featureset. If it supports things like DirectStorage, and it has better DLSS (hopefully applicable everywhere), and better VRS, mesh shaders etc, and the rumored much better ray tracing performance, then it's fine.

    And you would never see any of these things in a 3DMark score anyway. It's the same story with the 2070 Super and the 1080Ti. The same performance, but would any sane person go with Pascal over Turing, for the same price?

    Also NVIDIA needs to seriously lower their prices, but judging by the bad sales they had with Turing, they might have learned their lesson.
     

  5. 0blivious

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    I honestly doubt this is the top card. Nvidia likes to release the 3080 (series) first. Something better than last gen's Ti but not their best. Then 3-6 months later, they will release the 3080Ti. A card I doubt is even ready enough to be spotted in the wild yet.

    I say this is the 3080. Non Ti. (or, I'm a bit underwhelmed)
     
  6. PrMinisterGR

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    Didn't they release the 2080Ti immediately last time?
     
  7. Dragam1337

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    They did.
     
  8. k3vst3r

    k3vst3r Ancient Guru

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    It's probably the 3080 which ain't too bad for a 2080 replacement, heard they dropped Ti naming for now an just going call it 3090.
     
  9. Kaarme

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    Does this look like a best case scenario to you? I don't think Jensen Huang ordered his engineers to secretly relase numbers that would fail people's expectations.
     
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  10. 0blivious

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    Another possibility: This is the 3090 being benched, but it's not the top card "for gamers". This is the productivity card that will cost $3-$4K (or whatever). If you look at the (presumed) specs for the upcoming cards, the 3090 is clocked significantly lower than the 3080Ti. It's even clocked lower than a 3080. It's entirely possible the 3080Ti will knock our socks off.


    GPU speed in BOLD (specs not confirmed)


    Product Name ...Memory/GPU clock/Memory clock/Shaders / TMUs / ROPs

    GeForce RTX 3080 ....10 GB, 320 bit/1535 MHz/1750 MHz/4352 / 272 / 88

    GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB, 384 bit/1905 MHz/1750 MHz/5248 / 328 / 96

    GeForce RTX 3090 ....24 GB, 384 bit/1410 MHz/1750 MHz/5376 / 336 / 96



    From: TechPowerUp GPU database
     

  11. TheSissyOfFremont

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    Don't know why everyone assumes this is one of the higher end cards....

    But even if it was, given that leaks suggest a massive increase in RT performance over Turing, it would make sense that the performance gains in a bench like timespy would be more modest.
    The reality is that RT is going to become very much a standard feature in most games in the coming years, so using BM's without it is going to become redundant - starting from now.

    I can't see how nvidia could increase their prices unless their performance margin over AMD increases, which again, if the rumours are to be believed, is unlikely.
    If Big Navi performs similarly to how the 5700xt does to the 2070super, and maintains their price advantage, I can see Nvidia having to match it - as long as AMD release cards at every price point.
     
  12. PrMinisterGR

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    Why would they rename this. They have a GPU like that, it's called the Titan. What is quite obvious with the next gen of consoles and games, is that anything <16GB of VRAM won't cut it any longer. The 3090 sounds like the 3080 with a proper amount of memory to me. 24GB, especially if hardware accelerated GPU scheduling is enabled, sounds like a proper amount of VRAM.
     
  13. XenthorX

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    30% performance increase in raster, twice raytracing capabilities, sounds like an acceptable successor to the 2080-ti.


    Whatever they put out, Nvidia is playing its survival with RTX.
     
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  14. itpro

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    Even if this is 3080TI you should all be happy. ~30% more rasterization performance and ~150-300% more ray-tracing performance depending on load, it is a win-win scenario. Sales will be good.
     
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    The consoles have 16GB total, some of which is reserved for the OS (2.5GB for the series x) but even so, if those numbers are correct Nvidia is being amazingly stingy on the VRAM allocation for these cards, 3090 aside. The 1080ti launched over 3 years ago with 11GB. I've had texture issues in Doom Eternal with the 2070S at 4K, which was resolved when switching to the Radeon 7. Sure, these cards have more than 8GB but 16GB to me feels comfy now. I don't want to be concerned with VRAM limitations going forward.
     

  16. XenthorX

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    Pricing will be key more than usual.
    I keep thinking that if AMD were to sell their console APU to desktop users they would kill Nvidia entry level constraining them to the highest, less selling, segment.

    I might have miss-interpreted but during the PS5 full specs reveal event they insisted on the fact that if amd were to sell those apus, the PS5 would still provide a better experience given the heavy optimization work that had been done.
     
  17. CPC_RedDawn

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    it true this is simply awful.

    bring on RDNA2 AMD.... *crosses fingers* PLEASE! Save us from this monotony!
     
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  18. PrMinisterGR

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    The consoles don't duplicate between system RAM and VRAM, and they also have zero-latency I/O systems to load assets that a normal PC should already have on VRAM. If anything, it might end up being few if a game takes DirectStorage / Asset streaming to the extreme.
     
  19. PrMinisterGR

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    AMD needs to seriously reinvent their DX9-11 drivers.
     
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    I am not as hopeful i have a strong feeling amd will price their card accordingly to nvidia and not really competitive i really really really hope i am wrong.
     

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