NVIDIA GeForce 451.48 WHQL Drivers: Download & Discussion

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  1. yurizinho182

    yurizinho182 New Member

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    I have a lot tearings in chrome and jedi fallen order (vsync on, 60 fps cap)

    HAGS active

    How i can solve it?
     
  2. anub1s18

    anub1s18 Member Guru

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    hmmm tried to search but....nobody having issue's playing video's with these drivers?

    since installing them i had youtube/firefox crash my display driver a couple times and yesterday i noticed VLC is also capable of doing it.

    at first i thought it was the hardware scheduling so i turned that off again but it still happens.

    then i thought maybe it's my oc despite that having been stable for month's so i set it to stock and it still happens >.>

    using a RTX 2070 Super btw

    here i am having switched to a RTX 2070 super after the last update for forza 7 brought stutter back to my 980ti which had been working fine only to be greeted with a higher framerate but the same damn stutter...and now they probably fixed it on the 980ti wile seemingly perma broken on the RTX cards T.T

    ugh i give up on forza 7 i'll just wait for 8 where there will atleast hopefully be toyota's and no stutter >.>
     
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  3. Pr3t3nd3r

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    It could be. I have a RTX 2070 card.
     
  4. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    Working as intended, you can't use GDI rendering and not expect tearing.

    Turn hardware acceleration back on.
     

  5. Cave Waverider

    Cave Waverider Master Guru

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    Hm, I don't seem to have any stutters in Forza Horizon 3,4 and Forza Motorsport 7 on my 2080 Ti with 451.48 drivers in Windows 10 2004. Playing in 3840x2160 with everything maxed out, except motion blur turned off. I don't have HDR enabled, however.
     
  6. Netherwind

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    I've read your dispute with Terepin and I agree with him. Just like Terepin I turned off HAGS and the issue is gone just as the issue disappeared when I enabled HW acceleration when HAGS was enabled. I could try to make a video if you don't believe me.
     
  7. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    You can be wrong and clueless all you want, links were listed and well, you can't force a horse to drink.

    HAGS is just highlighting the tearing thats already there.
     
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  8. Mineria

    Mineria Ancient Guru

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    As for explorer and other applications that don't have any hardware acceleration support I didn't see any difference between HAGS enabled/disabled.
     
  9. Supertribble

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    Interesting. Forza Horizon 4 is fine for me using any driver and Motorsport 7 is ok with driver 446.14 but not this new driver. I've tried Horizon 3 with two different 2070S and a 2060 and they all exhibit severe performance degradation which eventually renders the game unplayable after an hours play or thereabouts. I don't think there is a memory leak happening but the two cards that work fine for me with all Forza games have more than 8GB of VRAM. Weird.
     
  10. Dragondale13

    Dragondale13 Maha Guru

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    Having gotten to play with HAGS some more I can safely say it hurts my performance.In the Caspian level it's evident.Moving about in the day is much faster with it off.
     

  11. Netherwind

    Netherwind Ancient Guru

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    Based on your post history i'd say that you generally try to be helpful which is great but this "my way or the highway" attitude you're going for is plain wrong.

    Edit: Read your links and didn't understand much of it but if you feel those links provide some kind of proof to what's going on here, fine, I won't argue with that and you're probably right. But one thing you cannot do is tell me that I didn't see what I saw.

    I'm on my work computer now which runs Win10 1809 and when I slowly scroll up/down in Chrome I see no difference whatsoever between HW accel on or off except some occasional stutter which I assume is based on my very low performing chip.
     
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  12. Terepin

    Terepin Master Guru

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    Yes, I can. And I was for years. You can keep denying the truth, but practically observable facts don't care what you think is true or not. I have videos to back up my claims, while you have nothing.
     
  13. Terepin

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    He is either a troll or just stupid. Or both. I have videos that clearly show no tearing of any kind whatsoever with both HW acceleration and HAGS disabled and he didn't address them once. Gee, I wonder why.
     
  14. AsiJu

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    @Astyanax

    There is such a thing as not pretending to know for a fact when you don't and you're given evidence showing it.
    Even when (if) you are technically right there is such a thing as being right gracefully and appreciating others might still have different observations.

    All new concepts to you I imagine but worth thinking about.
     
  15. Astyanax

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    Its called a no bullshit attitude, and i don't have time for reposting things.

    GDI doesn't vsync, any tearing as a result of HAGS is simply because of that fact,

    What you want to be reporting is hitching and stuttering which make it jarringly more obvious.

    GDI is loosely presented at blt rate within the DWM compositor.

    Behavioral difference can actually be demonstrated in older emulators that had a gdi option, with some amount of tearing being mitigated on Win9x-NT5 but not on NT6+ where the compositor is active and draw rate of the application significantly exceeds the compositors presentation to screen.

    "We're using GDI, so there's not much we can do to avoid tearing. You can see that if we use 3D to render, then vsync is enabled."

    https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=146743
     
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  16. BlindBison

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    Not sure if anyone's covered this yet in this thread, but the latest Nvidia driver (this one with hardware accelerated gpu scheduling) breaks "Detroit: Become Human" for me -- had to roll back to stop the game from crashing constantly. Once I did, the issues totally disappeared. Will try updating again once Nvidia's next driver releases or once I'm finished with DBH.
     
  17. Astyanax

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    Cyberdine has already beat you to that.

    use the cuda driver for this game.
     
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  18. Dozeball

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    This version of the driver is INCREDIBLY unstable - I'm not sure how this passed nvidia's QC, but I am getting DirectX errors left, right and center, on a wide variety of games.....From NFS: Heat, to Witcher 3....Not to mention Control (With DLSS 2.0 on AND off), CoD Modern Warfare (NOT Warzone), Forza Horizon 4, HITMAN 2, the list goes on.....I get some form of garbled error, all relating to DirectX. But as soon as I roll back to 446.19, none of the games I play have any issues, or crash at all.

    I HAVE reported this to nvidia, in detail.


    I SUSPECT that this has to do with DX12U that has been implemented in the latest driver, and something about pre-existing games simply do not like it.

    For reference, this is on a Ryzen 5 3600 (left at stock) build, with 32GB 3200MHz RAM on an X570 Motherboard, all drives are SSD, with an AORUS 2070 Super that is NOT Afterburner OC'd.
     
  19. wasteomind

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    He does this in every single driver thread. Tried to tell me multiple times a known DX12 issue in Rise of the Tomb Raider was an isolated issue on my pc, it was not. It was a game/driver issue that was supposedly "solved" in previous drivers, but broken in following ones. It was eventually fixed driver side after it was reported. Hes always short with people and quick to assume they are ignorant and treating them as such. People sometimes post in running commentary across multiple posts and he chooses one and eviscerates it without reading everything in context before commenting. He knows it all, and you know nothing. Always starts arguments, and apparently knows all the higher ups and connected people. Might be knowledgeable, might be trying to be helpful, but mostly just infuriatingly rude. It's one thing to try to help people, its another to comment on something then treat people like a dick if they respond.
     
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  20. AntiSnipe

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    These are working perfectly for me....on Windows 7.

    Edit: On Windows 10 however...
    "Application popup: Windows - Display Driver Recovered From Failure : Exception Processing Message 0x401b00ec - Unexpected parameters"
     
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