NVIDIA ForceWare 169.21 Released / Discussion / Download

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by SpajdrEX, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. fcabal_

    fcabal_ Member Guru

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    Nah, you should check something else bro 'cause none of us has issues with the latest betas (169.09, 169.12, 169.13, 169.17 and 169.21) at least no issues such as yours.

    Maybe you need to uninstall your driver with cleandriver and try again, the betas are extremely great, please dont say again that Nvidia is doing another bad job because they aren't, they are doing great.

    Have you ever seen how many brains it needs to make games and drivers????

    Patience dude...

    Good Luck :thumbup:
     
  2. CharlieSimon

    CharlieSimon Maha Guru

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    Source?
    I've missed that one completly.
     
  3. Mahneraki

    Mahneraki Guest

    Nope your wrong.

    8 Series supports only Directx 10.
    The new Ati 3850 and 3870 supports 10.1
    Microsoft will bring 10.1.

    As i said in the topic of 169.17. The drivers are so weird that they got my notebook runs crazy by burning up.
    Got an
    GO 6200 so lets see if this drivers are better.
     
  4. CharlieSimon

    CharlieSimon Maha Guru

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    Actully, ALOT of people have issues with black screen bug with drivers later then 169.04.
     

  5. Mahneraki

    Mahneraki Guest

    I can confirm that.
    But it happend to me only with 169.17.

    As i understood it, the problem is that the drivers make your card go "a bit" faster. Thats the reason why they are getting hotter and why my notebook is hot as hell.
    cuz you have a pc you just have to up the vcore a bit. and then it should be fine.
    I on the other hand cant do that because its a NB;-(
     
  6. Flukester

    Flukester Banned

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    No, all 8 series cards support DX10. No card up and until recently supports DX10.1... 8 series cards will work with DX10.1 but in DX10 mode, you will not be able to see some things that would be part of DX10.1. At least that's my understanding. DX10.1 is backwards compatible with DX10.
     
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    Burnt_Ram Ancient Guru

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    you having said this, i have to try them. with 169.17 all UE3 games i have ran terrible! had to go back to 169.09!
     
  8. fcabal_

    fcabal_ Member Guru

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    Well, in this forum: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=2526873#post2526873

    I saw that 8800GTS users have the blackscreen issue.

    I have a GTX and believe me, I have never had problems with this beauty.
     
  9. CharlieSimon

    CharlieSimon Maha Guru

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    WhiteLightning Don Illuminati Staff Member

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    i also had the black screen bug, never happened to me b4
    i booted into safe mode, then reinstalled the driver again.
    when i booted into normal mode, everything was working.
     

  11. CharlieSimon

    CharlieSimon Maha Guru

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    did you install the new drivers when you were in safe mode?
     
  12. fcabal_

    fcabal_ Member Guru

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    only after i got the black screen,but yes
     
  14. CharlieSimon

    CharlieSimon Maha Guru

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    Gonna try that when I get home from work, started a drivercleaner just before I got to work but It didn't have time to finish.
    Crossing my fingers.

    Heard these drivers kick 169.04's ass :)
     
  15. CharlieSimon

    CharlieSimon Maha Guru

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    hehe,indeed :)

    Hope I'll get lucky when I get home and install them in a freash install.
     

  16. GhostXL

    GhostXL Ancient Guru

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    No actually im right.....

    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2168429,00.asp

    It's going to depend on the developer of games to decide weither or not to make it backwards compatible. DX10 cards to support 10.1. I never said you would gain the effects of 10.1 all i said is that they were compatible and they are. You realize DX 10.1 is mainly sound tweaks and 4xAA requirement?? Its not like DX10 cards cannot do that already.

    Another source....

    http://www.actiontrip.com/rei/comments_news.phtml?id=081407_11

    Actually its not me thats right its microsoft. I'm just passing the info along. Please dont turn this into an im right your wrong thread.

    Taken from the second link above...

    "On Saturday, news broke out that the next revision of the DX API from MS, DirectX 10.1, will render the current crop of DirectX 10 cards "obsolete."

    That was a load of BS it seems (thank God).

    Microsoft's Sam Glassenberg told Next-Gen in a phone interview, "DX10.1 fully supports DX10 hardware. No hardware support is being removed....It's strictly a superset. It's basically an update to DX10 that extends the hardware functionality slightly."

    If you still want to agrue the fact that you cannot run DX10.1 apps with DX10 hardware your wrong...so call up Microsoft and tell them that. Don't take it out with me.
     
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  17. Gottex

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    Anyone have fps drop with this driver with SLI enabled???

    169.13 Vista 64, SLI AFR1, 1680x1050, AA off, all set to Very High - average 28

    169.17 Vista 64, SLI AFR1, 1680x1050, AA off, all set to Very High - average 19

    169.21 Vista 64, SLI AFR1, 1680x1050, AA off, all set to Very High - average 18


    CPU: Intel QX6850 3.0Ghz
    Motherboard: Asus P5N32-E SLI nForce680i (bios 1205)
    Video: 2*XFX 8800 Ultra SLI 650MHz/2.2GHz (1605MHz DDR3)
    Memory: Corsair XMS2 4x1Gb PC6400C4@800MHz 4-4-4-12(2T)
    HDD: WD Raptor 74Gb SATA-150 10000rpm
    HDD: WD RaptorX 150Gb SATA-150 10000rpm
    PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W
    Case: Cooler Master Stacker 832 (7 fans)
    Monitor: Dell UltraSharp 3007WFP-HC 30-inch (2560x1600)

    Windows Vistaâ„¢ Ultimate 64-bit
    DirectX November 2007
    nHanser 2.3.2
     
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  18. CharlieSimon

    CharlieSimon Maha Guru

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    From the first link.
    At the SIGGRAPH graphics conference, Microsoft gave a presentation detailing some of the changes coming in DirectX 10.1. Those that are interested can view the presentation slides here. The highlights are as follows:
    DirectX 10.1 is a series of extensions to DirectX 10
    It's supported by upcoming graphics hardware, but not current DX10 hardware
    It requires (and will be part of) Vista Service Pack 1

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    From the first Link.


    No hardware support is being removed....It's strictly a superset. It's basically an update to DX10 that extends the hardware functionality slightly."

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    From the second link.

    So.. Why post 2 links that talks against each other?

    Edit : Just noticed your own edit :p
     
  19. GhostXL

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    It doesn't I don't think you get it. DX10.1 is backwards compatible with DX10. Microsoft clearly stated in that phone interview you do not need new hardware to support it. The first article is saying it depends on the developer to make sure this happens. Its pretty simple. If it depends on the driver or not we still don't know that part.

    Our hardware is backwards compatible not forward. In other words. We can run DX10.1 apps just in DX10 not 10.1. All you gotta do pretty much is enable 4xAA in DX10 and your pretty much running 10.1. Of course there are other tweaks to DX10.1 but MS already stated its minor extensions. DX10.1 is really just a push to have 4xAA.
     
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  20. CharlieSimon

    CharlieSimon Maha Guru

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    Okey, sounds good I suppose, would still like an official statement from them to fully belive it.
     

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