Nvidia driver DriverVer = 10/02/2017, 23.21.13.8787 (Windows update)

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  1. ms178

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    Are the color issues fixed in fullscreen exclusive mode in some DX11 titles (e.g. Wargame Air Land Battle and Wargame Red Dragon)? I encountered them in all of the previous WDDM 2.3 drivers. Even the colors and brightness on the desktop were noticably different.
     
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  3. Darren Hodgson

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    @ ManualG - Are you/NVIDIA aware of issues with Unity engine games on Windows 10 v1709 build 16299.15 (a.k.a. the Creators Fall Update due for official release on 17th October) and, I believe, WDDM 2.3? I use a 165 Hz G-SYNC 2560x1440 ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q monitor.

    I first noticed weird behaviour in Road Redemption, which uses Unity, as I saw framerates going from 30 fps at the start to 85-110 fps then back to 30 fps constantly during a race, which completely ruined the experience. The only way I could guarantee a solid 60+ fps framerate with to use the Low preset... on a GTX 1080 Ti. I then discovered, completely by accident while adding a Framerate Limit of 165 fps via RTSS while the game was running, that Alt-Tabbing to the desktop and back fixed the framerate but on starting the next race the same 30-110-30 fps would reoccur until, I again, used Alt-Tab. I am currently forcing exclusive fullscreen mode for this game via the Steam launcher options (-window-mode exclusive) and this allows the game to run perfectly without the need to constantly use Alt-Tab.

    Since then I have come across a number of other Unity games that have this same weird 30 fps bug, which incidentally is due to extremely low CPU and GPU usage: Orwell, Immortal Redneck and Kerbal Space Program, all run at 30 fps on my PC when tested with the v387.78 driver despite the fact these previous ran at 60+ fps on the previous version (v1703 build 15063.6xx) of Windows 10 with earlier drivers, including the officially released v385.69 WHQL driver. Not all Unity games are affected though; Ori and the Blind Forest, Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty, The Last Tinker: City of Colors all run at upwards of 165 fps on my system. I suspect the issue may be tied to a specific build or builds of Unity Engine (most of those games use DX9 I think).

    Obviously, with the Creators Fall Update not being out yet then any issues with games are going to be few and far between but with Unity being a very popular engine for independent developers then it could become a widespread issue come the 17th (assuming this issue is not specific to my PC, which I do not believe it is since games using other engines all run perfectly as before).

    *EDIT*
    The Unity engine/30 FPS bug I mentioned Here *seems* to have fixed itself over the last couple of days, coincidentally after I installed the newer v387.87 NVIDIA graphics from Windows Update (I was previously using v387.78). Since the v387.xx drivers have no release notes then it is impossible to say if it is due to the new driver or just some other peculiarity on my PC that somehow fixed itself.

    ManuelG - Was this a known issue that was fixed in this driver or was it some oddity with my PC?
     
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  4. Cyris

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    I can confirm that the files from the "NvCplSetupInt" Container like nvGameS.dll, nvGameSR.dll (Profile database) downloaded from holystarlight are labeld as 387.86. Can other Insider confirm this?

    @ManuelG Can you check this?
     

  5. chuchicoupe

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    Confirmed.
    [Componentes]

    nvui.dll 8.17.13.8787 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
    nvxdplcy.dll 8.17.13.8787 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
    nvxdbat.dll 8.17.13.8787 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
    nvxdapix.dll 8.17.13.8787 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
    NVCPL.DLL 8.17.13.8787 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
    nvCplUIR.dll 8.1.940.0 NVIDIA Control Panel
    nvCplUI.exe 8.1.940.0 NVIDIA Control Panel
    nvViTvSR.dll 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA Video Server
    nvViTvS.dll 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA Video Server
    nvDispSR.dll 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA Display Server
    NVMCTRAY.DLL 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA Media Center Library
    nvDispS.dll 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA Display Server
    nvWSSR.dll 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA Workstation Server
    nvWSS.dll 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA Workstation Server
    PhysX 09.17.0524 NVIDIA PhysX
    NVCUDA.DLL 23.21.13.8787 NVIDIA CUDA 9.1.0 driver
    nvGameSR.dll 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
    nvGameS.dll 23.21.13.8786 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
     
  6. ms178

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    Okay, I've tried the new driver version provided by Cyris and can confirm that the previous color issues were not fixed (I am on Win 10 16299.15 now). [EDIT: I initially cheered too early, after a second restart they showed up again, ahrgs.]

    By the way, I just saw Manuel's statement in the NVidia forums that there is a fix from Microsoft incoming for a different color issue, the color issues which I face occur in these games even when night light mode is disabled. @ManuelG could you confirm these color issues which I face? Is there a fix in the works? They should be very easy to reproduce (and are even noticable in the blue loading circle next to the mous pointer while loading applications on the desktop), just start the above mentioned games in fullscreen exclusive mode.
     
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  7. holystarlight

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    Not sure if its the game or SLI related but Overwatch refuses to open in exclusive full screen on these drivers with SLI enabled, it opens and instantly minimizes to the taskbar. windows mode for the game works but input lag is awful with gsync.
     
  8. tfam26

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    4790k/msi gtx 1080 gaming x/24gb ram running RS3 fall update on a pg279q; system rigorously tested completely stable. Only HotS affected on my system with the whitescreen issue.


    Getting the same thing here.
     
  9. GSDragoon

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    @ManuelG It's hard to describe because it's very erratic behavior. The browser and full screen issues seem to be related though. It almost behaves as a memory leak and take some time (hours) after a reboot to notice and will keep getting worse. After Windows installed these drivers, I re-ran the installer with the clean install option checked and then rebooted. I only have a few games installed at the moment (HDD failure), but I loaded up Diablo III (Windowed full screen mode) on one screen and used Edge to stream the crazy 5+ hour Indians vs Yankees game on the other screen (full screen). After a few hours, I noticed a drop in performance with Diablo and the game video would occasionally revert to un-full screen mode or crash. It would take a number of attempts to get the video to play in full screen mode again as it would occasionally flicker and fail. Completely closing Edge and reloading the page didn't help, nor did switching to Firefox. Once I rebooted and went back to the same setup, it was working great again.

    Fast forward a couple more hours, the game ended and I stopped playing Diablo. No reboot. Then I went to Home Depot's web site and it was crashing. No videos or full screen anything. Both Edge and Firefox had the same issues. I then went to YouTube to watch some videos and they would crash the browser and/or fail to go into full screen mode. I loaded up the other game I have installed (Warframe). It took several times to launch the game and get it to load properly (full screen exclusive mode). It would either load a blank screen or load minimized and wouldn't restore. After a reboot, going to the same sites and loading up Warframe had no issues.

    I've also seen similar behavior when not using a dual screen setup (TV via HDMI) watching videos, using MPC-HC/madVr or a browser.

    The one test I should have done, but will hopefully be able to try out today, is disable hardware acceleration on the browsers when the issue happens and see if it makes an improvement. I also want to look at more memory values. All of this behavior started with the first driver using WDDM 2.3 and worked flawlessly with the 2.2 ones.

    EDIT: Found some crashes for the Desktop Window Manager and Edge in the Event Log.

    The Desktop Window Manager process has exited. (Process exit code: 0xc00001ad, Restart count: 1, Primary display device ID: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960)

    Faulting application name: dwm.exe, version: 10.0.16299.15, time stamp: 0x7f22d77c
    Faulting module name: dwmcore.dll, version: 10.0.16299.15, time stamp: 0x0420e2d3
    Exception code: 0xc00001ad
    Fault offset: 0x0000000000194dba
    Faulting process id: 0x408
    Faulting application start time: 0x01d33eed0b8663d7
    Faulting application path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\dwm.exe
    Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\dwmcore.dll
    Report Id: aa5f928d-8a50-4cab-9234-10d9c1a1efdf
    Faulting package full name:
    Faulting package-relative application ID:

    Faulting application name: MicrosoftEdgeCP.exe, version: 11.0.16299.15, time stamp: 0x59cda7cd
    Faulting module name: edgehtml.dll, version: 11.0.16299.15, time stamp: 0xaae9eca3
    Exception code: 0xc00001ad
    Fault offset: 0x0000000000765143
    Faulting process id: 0x1bcc
    Faulting application start time: 0x01d33f1825dbaa71
    Faulting application path: C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\MicrosoftEdgeCP.exe
    Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\edgehtml.dll
    Report Id: 92edf26b-7c5c-4364-9588-d2f84866b750
    Faulting package full name: Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_41.16299.15.0_neutral__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Faulting package-relative application ID: ContentProcess

    Application popup: MicrosoftEdgeCP.exe - Application Error : The exception unknown software exception (0x8007000e) occurred in the application at location 0x00007FFECDF63FB8.
     
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  10. norton

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    with this driver and windows 10 16299.15 1709 now shader moder 6 is live

    ADAPTER 0
    "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970"
    VEN_10DE, DEV_13C2, SUBSYS_367A1458, REV_A1
    Dedicated video memory : 3221225472 bytes
    Total video memory : 4294901760 bytes
    Video driver version : 23.21.13.8787
    Maximum feature level : D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_12_1 (0xc100)
    DoublePrecisionFloatShaderOps : 1
    OutputMergerLogicOp : 1
    MinPrecisionSupport : D3D12_SHADER_MIN_PRECISION_SUPPORT_NONE (0)
    TiledResourcesTier : D3D12_TILED_RESOURCES_TIER_3 (3)
    ResourceBindingTier : D3D12_RESOURCE_BINDING_TIER_3 (3)
    PSSpecifiedStencilRefSupported : 0
    TypedUAVLoadAdditionalFormats : 1
    ROVsSupported : 1
    ConservativeRasterizationTier : D3D12_CONSERVATIVE_RASTERIZATION_TIER_1 (1)
    StandardSwizzle64KBSupported : 0
    CrossNodeSharingTier : D3D12_CROSS_NODE_SHARING_TIER_NOT_SUPPORTED (0)
    CrossAdapterRowMajorTextureSupported : 0
    VPAndRTArrayIndexFromAnyShaderFeedingRasterizerSupportedWithoutGSEmulation : 1
    ResourceHeapTier : D3D12_RESOURCE_HEAP_TIER_1 (1)
    MaxGPUVirtualAddressBitsPerResource : 40
    MaxGPUVirtualAddressBitsPerProcess : 40
    Adapter Node 0: TileBasedRenderer: 0, UMA: 0, CacheCoherentUMA: 0, IsolatedMMU: 1
    HighestShaderModel : D3D12_SHADER_MODEL_6_0 (0x0060)
    WaveOps : 1
    WaveLaneCountMin : 32
    WaveLaneCountMax : 32
    TotalLaneCount : 26624
    ExpandedComputeResourceStates : 1
    Int64ShaderOps : 1
    RootSignature.HighestVersion : D3D_ROOT_SIGNATURE_VERSION_1_1 (2)
    DepthBoundsTestSupported : 1
    ProgrammableSamplePositionsTier : D3D12_PROGRAMMABLE_SAMPLE_POSITIONS_TIER_2 (2)
    ShaderCache.SupportFlags : D3D12_SHADER_CACHE_SUPPORT_SINGLE_PSO | LIBRARY (3)
     

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    I haven't seen anyone mention so...
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  12. -Tj-

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    Yeah., only cuda 9.1 and nvcpl files are 878.87.



    EDIT: I see others saw it too, its not a big deal though.. Would be worse if it registered my old r385 files, I used simple over-install update.



    Could you please :) re-upload this "GpuTool" somewhere.. I remember I had it in one desktop folder, but guess it got deleted..
     
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  13. norton

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  14. -Tj-

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    Thanks!

    It shows it in RS2 too :)

    ADAPTER 0
    "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti"
    VEN_10DE, DEV_17C8, SUBSYS_139619DA, REV_A1
    Dedicated video memory : 3221225472 bytes
    Total video memory : 4294901760 bytes
    Video driver version : 23.21.13.8787
    Maximum feature level : D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_12_1 (0xc100)
    DoublePrecisionFloatShaderOps : 1
    OutputMergerLogicOp : 1
    MinPrecisionSupport : D3D12_SHADER_MIN_PRECISION_SUPPORT_NONE (0)
    TiledResourcesTier : D3D12_TILED_RESOURCES_TIER_3 (3)
    ResourceBindingTier : D3D12_RESOURCE_BINDING_TIER_3 (3)
    PSSpecifiedStencilRefSupported : 0
    TypedUAVLoadAdditionalFormats : 1
    ROVsSupported : 1
    ConservativeRasterizationTier : D3D12_CONSERVATIVE_RASTERIZATION_TIER_1 (1)
    StandardSwizzle64KBSupported : 0
    CrossNodeSharingTier : D3D12_CROSS_NODE_SHARING_TIER_NOT_SUPPORTED (0)
    CrossAdapterRowMajorTextureSupported : 0
    VPAndRTArrayIndexFromAnyShaderFeedingRasterizerSupportedWithoutGSEmulation : 1
    ResourceHeapTier : D3D12_RESOURCE_HEAP_TIER_1 (1)
    MaxGPUVirtualAddressBitsPerResource : 40
    MaxGPUVirtualAddressBitsPerProcess : 40
    Adapter Node 0: TileBasedRenderer: 0, UMA: 0, CacheCoherentUMA: 0, IsolatedMMU: 1
    HighestShaderModel : D3D12_SHADER_MODEL_6_0 (0x0060)
    WaveOps : 1
    WaveLaneCountMin : 32
    WaveLaneCountMax : 32
    TotalLaneCount : 45056
    ExpandedComputeResourceStates : 1
    Int64ShaderOps : 1
    RootSignature.HighestVersion : D3D_ROOT_SIGNATURE_VERSION_1_1 (2)
    DepthBoundsTestSupported : 1
    ProgrammableSamplePositionsTier : D3D12_PROGRAMMABLE_SAMPLE_POSITIONS_TIER_2 (2)
    ShaderCache.SupportFlags : D3D12_SHADER_CACHE_SUPPORT_SINGLE_PSO | LIBRARY (3)

    ADAPTER 1
    "Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600"
    VEN_8086, DEV_0412, SUBSYS_85341043, REV_06
    Dedicated video memory : 117964800 bytes
    Total video memory : 2265448448 bytes
    Maximum feature level : D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_11_1 (0xb100)
    DoublePrecisionFloatShaderOps : 1
    OutputMergerLogicOp : 1
    MinPrecisionSupport : D3D12_SHADER_MIN_PRECISION_SUPPORT_NONE (0)
    TiledResourcesTier : D3D12_TILED_RESOURCES_TIER_1 (1)
    ResourceBindingTier : D3D12_RESOURCE_BINDING_TIER_1 (1)
    PSSpecifiedStencilRefSupported : 0
    TypedUAVLoadAdditionalFormats : 0
    ROVsSupported : 1
    ConservativeRasterizationTier : D3D12_CONSERVATIVE_RASTERIZATION_TIER_NOT_SUPPORTED (0)
    StandardSwizzle64KBSupported : 0
    CrossNodeSharingTier : D3D12_CROSS_NODE_SHARING_TIER_NOT_SUPPORTED (0)
    CrossAdapterRowMajorTextureSupported : 0
    VPAndRTArrayIndexFromAnyShaderFeedingRasterizerSupportedWithoutGSEmulation : 1
    ResourceHeapTier : D3D12_RESOURCE_HEAP_TIER_2 (2)
    MaxGPUVirtualAddressBitsPerResource : 31
    MaxGPUVirtualAddressBitsPerProcess : 31
    Adapter Node 0: TileBasedRenderer: 0, UMA: 1, CacheCoherentUMA: 1, IsolatedMMU: 1
    HighestShaderModel : D3D12_SHADER_MODEL_5_1 (0x0051)
    WaveOps : 0
    WaveLaneCountMin : 4
    WaveLaneCountMax : 4
    TotalLaneCount : 4
    ExpandedComputeResourceStates : 1
    Int64ShaderOps : 0
    RootSignature.HighestVersion : D3D_ROOT_SIGNATURE_VERSION_1_1 (2)
    DepthBoundsTestSupported : 0
    ProgrammableSamplePositionsTier : D3D12_PROGRAMMABLE_SAMPLE_POSITIONS_TIER_NOT_SUPPORTED (0)
    ShaderCache.SupportFlags : D3D12_SHADER_CACHE_SUPPORT_SINGLE_PSO (1)
     
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  15. WhiskeyOmega

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    @ManuelG im still getting Black screens but interestingly it recovered after i switched the monitor off/on again . This is a 1st .
     

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    @WhiskeyOmega Damn, i didn't think about that...after getting black screen...i didn't think twice and uninstalled it directly after haha
     
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    Roflmao..AMD obliterates NV in this game..

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  18. Cyris

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    The black screen issue is also available with my old Titan Black in my sec. testing rig. After the driver installation the system runs without problems even after a reboot. However, the system is shut down and then turned on again you will only see the mouse pointer on the Windows Desktop the rest is black. So I had to delete the driver over an RDP Session. After removal of the HDAudio driver and subsequent reboot, Window was re-displayed correctly.

    Tested on Windows 10.0.15063.502
     
  19. WhiskeyOmega

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    I came to the pc this morning to hear my 1080ti going at full pelt with its fans. Not sure what happened but a hard reboot stopped it. This is another 1st on these drivers.
     
  20. Rhadamanthis

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    is possible to test this driver with my 970m gtx?
     

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