Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Rich_Guy, Mar 15, 2019.
They're screwed anyway, with RTX as it's biggest seller still not picking up. Can't see what they'd really have to offer besides the same being faster and more expensive yet again (and that arguably doesn't help without game implementations of it's exclusive features).
RTX was never about the end users, it was about the developers.
Turing is a development and compute architecture, like fermi was before it.
too early. they dont care about nm
You are probably right, only that AMD seems to do what Nvidia did with compute power, yet Nvidia's DXR implementation seems to offer less performance with specialized hardware to a higher price than what AMD might have at hand. If I perceived it right, it's certainly an unpleasant situation, one which I do not envy Nvidia for.
Brace yourselves for another round of overpriced graphics cards with mandatory RTX tax.
Its so nice of you to compare turing with fermi one of the worst nvidia archs.
Fermi 2 (gtx580) was a decent arch for its time. Fermi 1 or 'Thermi' (gtx480/470) sucked.
We don't know what AMD's cryengine framerate was, its very easy to make 30fps appear to be 60.
But are they dropping the insane price tags is the real question.
My predictions are spot on it seems.... they will probably go all in on RTX offering more RT/Tensors cores
The upcoming RTX 3080 Ti will probably cost 1600 US.
God i hope not... i just want a lot faster traditional raster performance, i don't even intend to use raytracing, as it's a massive waste of performance for a tiny bit better looking reflections...
It is my hope that they make a top end gpu without any RT/tensor cores, and focus the entire die on traditional raster performance... but that likely wont happen -_-
Called it when they announced 2080 Ti with the RTX line-up. I still got myself one and have been enjoying 4K gaming with it. If a 3080 Ti comes out with another 30% gain, then it will be worth it for me to buy it as 4K gaming is pretty taxing right now with newer titles.
I also need to be ready for Cyberpunk 2077 when it comes either end of this year or next.
I highly doubt it. we might see RTX and GTX series co-exist but GTX will be the lower end. Nvidia needs RTX to separate itself from the console/casual market
today a 10 series card can run all the popular games like Apex legends, PUBG, Fortinte etc. the vast majority of Nvidia's market is actually the 1070~1050Ti range there's no need for these consumers to upgrade.
add to that, that next gen consoles are rumored to target 4K60FPS and Nvidia has nothing to sell. this is why RTX is pushed very hard.
There is no way the next gen consoles will be able to push native 4k60 at any decent settings... then it will just be upscaled, as always with consoles.
And ofc there is something for nvidia to sell... pc gamers want more than 60 fps ! If they delivered a gpu that can do 4k120 in the vast majority of new games, then it would sell like hot bread... rtx on the other hand? No one gives a rats arse about it.
Never said they won't use some form of checker-board rendering or previous frame upscale. it makes sense as the image isn't that bad while you get big performance gains.
the next gen console will hit 4K 60 fps, the current Xbox one X hits on multiple titles 4K natively. with a 7nm Ryzen CPU, next gen consoles will offer a big leap.
4K 120 FPS? are you serious? how many people do you think are targeting that? how many people can actually get a monitor that pushes 120 frames on 4K? minority.
as I said. Nvidia biggest profits come from the mid range, not the extreme high end.
I disagree, i very much dislike the usage of upscaling.
Yes, xbox one x can do 4k30 in several titles, but it has a 6 TFLOPS gpu - there is no way that the next gen consoles are getting a 12 TFLOPS gpu, that would be way too expensive, considering only the very highend gpu's have that or slightly more.
It is true that the cpu part of the consoles will take a big leap, but the gpu part wont, and you won't ever pull 4k60 on a gpu with less than 10 TFLOPS... unless it is upscaled from something like 1440p, in which case it isn't 4k60.
I am targetting 4k120 with my next build.