Nvidia CEO: Radeon VII is lousy and nothing new

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  1. bigfutus

    bigfutus Master Guru

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    Lousy and nothing new says this gentleman, who likes to run on the stage ecstatically in leather jackets, masturbating about some stupid gimmick that nobody really cares usually :D
     
  2. HeavyHemi

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    Walt, this never happened. While AMD did gain back some marginal share, you're clearly not remembering history
     
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  3. Undying

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    Jensen is just intimidated by Lisa and AMD company as a whole. He knows they have Intel by the balls so competing successfully with them too can be a problem.
     
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    That was a lot more than we needed to know about your Huang fantasy...please clean yourself up....sheesh....
     

  5. DethZero

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    I have hopes for Navi. Radeon VII is pretty much Vega on steroids. It's not a bad card but I'm hoping the lack of demand will cause it to decrease in price to entice a purchase.
     
  6. HeavyHemi

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    Why would he be when Nvidia has two product stacks superior to AMD's brand new GCN 7 repsin? AMD is barely treading water along with their defenders.
     
  7. Denial

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    R300 was back in 2004 so it's effect is not covered by this chart - to be fair Jens himself said that the FX series nearly bankrupted the company. Should also point out that the FX's failure was mostly due to Microsoft allowing AMD to use FP24 in place of FP32/16 like Nvidia was.

    The rest of his post about RTX and stuff is just nonsense tho. There hasn't been a single time where raytracing has been successfuly integrated into a consumer game. DXR is not GameWorks and Lisa literally announced they are working on integrating it into their GPUs. Not to mention the countless other benefits Turing has in it outside of RT that Jen's is alluding to with his comment.
     
  8. Cyberdyne

    Cyberdyne Ancient Guru

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    I think the issue is the price. $700? For 1080 Ti performance? Why can AMD do this and everyone is happy? But when NVidia makes a RTX 2080, same performance, same price, plus extra RT and Tensor cores, everyone says it's a rip off.
     
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    Maybe he just want a real competition ,he want to give a competitive prices for Nvidia GPU but it is not his decision alone and disappointed that AMD cant give him the reason to xD .It is his way to say wake tf up to AMD .
     
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    Nobody said they were happy with this price. Nobody (with a few exceptions) is happy with any of the current GPU prices, especially the 2080Ti.
    What people are in a fuss about is how Huang is treating the Radeon 7 like it's a drastically inferior product, even though the price and performance is very comparable to a 2080. Pretty hypocritical.
     
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    Oooof...Why do proffesional buisness ppl talk like that anyway.

    I am very happy with my 1080 but i would like AMD to come up with something similar to 1080TI and i would switch to check it out. the 2080/70 is too expensive atm.

    Another thing that BOTHERS ME about nvidia is this... Here in norway the 1080 and 1080TI are MORE expensive then the 2080/Ti cards...what the hell is up with that???

    Atm a regular GTX 1080 card is priced at 750$!!!!! i wanted to upgrade to a 1080Ti cuz i dont see the benefits of raytracing and dlss for a good while yet but i cant since the prices are insane.
     
  13. JamesSneed

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    Exactly. The Vega II has 16GB of HBM2 which makes that card have a use that the RTX 2080 does not. The enthusiast / hobbyist content creators that have large projects that need lots of GPU memory now have a decent card for much less than 2K to get you into a 16GB card from Nvidia which is the Quadro P5000 and even it is a cut down card with GDDR5X. To get 16GB of HBM from Nvidia we are talking the Quadro GP100 which is a $6,999 card.
     
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  14. Undying

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    Or you can get rtx titan for 2,500$ ;)
     
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    This has been 'annus horribilis' for JHH. His company's worth halved by the stock market, poor reception for RTX cards (along with quality control issues), sued by shareholders for misleading them about company performance, and now AMD about to give the 2080 a run for its money. He's on the defensive and lashing out. Poor baby...
     
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  16. D3M1G0D

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    The 1080 and 1080 Ti are EOL. Nvidia is no longer producing them (they expect you to buy the 2070/2080 instead) so prices are sky high. Speaking of which, I could probably sell one of my 1080 Ti cards and cover the cost of a Vega 7.
     
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    My thoughts too. I suspect that the underwhelming reception to the RTX range and negative comments from various sites have perhaps made him overly defensive of his product. Maybe the shareholders are getting ratty because NVIDIA have put a lot of money into developing RTX and they aren't selling as well as expected? Maybe he is just bitter because AMD not supporting ray-tracing means it will take longer to become mainstream which in turn means less developers are likely to support it? Whatever, it really is unprofessional.
     
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    The CEO of Nvidia is a moron because you do not need Ray Tracing for a card to be good. Also makes me wonder if HBM is cheaper than GDDR6 memory? I am sure that AMD will adopt Ray Tracing once the technology matures a bit.
     
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    Well Vega Frontier has had 16GB for the past two years.... for the same price for a good majority of those two years. Vega 7 is still good progress for AMD, we only had to wait a few months for a 2080 competitor as opposed to vega 64/1080 which took like a year because of the HBM2 delays...
     
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    i like how everyone is complaining about the language used rather than if he is right or wrong.

    classic consumerism
     
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