Nvidia CEO: Radeon VII is lousy and nothing new

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  1. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Well, if same thoughts about Lisa's jacket went through his head as went through mine...

    Then it could have been envy on his side as he is into jackets. Her jacket looks so soft and comfortable. Even Luxurious...
    His does not.
     
  2. ManofGod

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    Nope and nope. By the way, the V64 is equivalent to to 1080 with is equivalent to the 2070. Not really sure where you get this 2060 bashing from since most are under the 5 year NDA which Nvidia will bring the Ban hammer down on if you speak negatively at all about their products. (Good thing the [H] has the balls to expose this and the GPP crap.)
     
  3. ManofGod

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    Why should we take it with a grain of salt? Also, the fact that it is bundled with the AMD card means what exactly, that they bundled it with the AMD card and probably optimized it for it? Guess that RTX stuff is just not all that, after all.
     
  4. Loophole35

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    Linus. GN, Hardware unboxed just to name a few have posted negative press about the card.
    Also maybe you should pay attention V64, 1080 and 2060 are all in the same perfromance range. 2070 is a good bit ahead most of the time.
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    Look I get it you feel the need to prop your lord and savior Lisa Su up but do it with integrity.

    Objectivity is dead in this day.

    Because the performance delta of any game bundled with a product should be subject to query no matter if its green or red.
     
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    I agree with your fashion analysis: she looks better than him wearing leather jackets but sadly for Su the presentation was about GPU not fashion.

    :D
     
  6. tunejunky

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    actually, Nvidia has lost 40% of it's market cap and AMD has gained 70%.
    as of this moment (not a good one for the market) AMD could find any number of M&A specialists to partner with and finance an all cash buyout. and with stock mixed in it's even easier.

    but as i mentioned, the clear and present danger is Intel, whose actual cash on hand is over double the market cap of Nvidia. and the market knows Intel's fabrication assets make them uniquely suited to go 1:1 (and win) with AMD.
     
  7. fantaskarsef

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    Exactly this. It's most optimized for AMD. Not that I want to flame this fact, but it's pretty clear as of now that partner programs mean that the manufacturer's (driver) team and the devs work closer together than with the other one...
     
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    Lol wtf is this?

    Nvidia has lost 40% of it's market from what? It's all time high? AMD has gained 70% since what? It's all time low? Like what are you even looking at to get these numbers? Source literally any of this please - including that Intel has $180B in liquid assets.
     
  9. Fox2232

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    I doubt he was triggered by that GPU. That's why I think he had unpleasant moment watching Lisa.
    And I think he will remember what he said for long time.
     
  10. tensai28

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    Obviously making a comment like that is going to get the internet all worked up. But AMD still hasn't released anything to compete with nvidia's top card, the 2080ti or the rtx titan. They remain 1 generation behind as usual and release a card to compete with last gens 1080ti. This is a card that has been out for quite a while.

    Reality is; 4k gaming is here. 4k displays are becoming increasingly affordable and soon to be the standard (if not already). Unfortunately the cards to power them, are very overpriced and wouldn't be so expensive if there was some competition (AMD is to blame here).

    Right now, the 2080ti and rtx titan are the only cards that can safely give you ultra settings at 4k 60fps. AMD will give you results similar to last gens 1080ti which is in the 40-50fps territory on many AAA titles. Both the 2080ti and rtx titan, just by looking at a majority of feedback on here and elsewhere, is mostly seen as too expensive and only a result of the lack of competition from AMD. People who want to play games at 4k ultra have no choice but to buy these high priced cards. It's not a good situation and I have to say; yeah, it is lousy and nothing new. Imagine if AMD was to release a new card that went head to head with the 2080ti and at a lower price. Nvidia would be forced to lower their price to compete. That would be a much better situation that would benefit us all.
     
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  11. Loophole35

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    Nvidia may still lower their prices on RTX after RVII launches. They have pretty much sold the back stock of Pascal so the RTX prices can now be cut. If this is what happens it's a bit shady but par for the course all things considered. The point of NV and AMD is to make money at the end of the day.
     
  12. Fox2232

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    So, should AMD release gaming card with $1200 price tag against RTX 2080Ti? Or that matching RTX Titan?
    Will you buy it?
     
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    Why not? There are a lot of fat wallet ppl out there but the question is....:

    Is Navi 2 ready to release?

    First news...

    :p
     
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    read some business publications. i'm talking 4q numbers of valuation. and Intel (and Apple) have hundreds of billions of dollars cash on hand floating around (overseas to avoid U.S. taxes) as they have for over ten years.
    furthermore, Intel is in realignment - case in point Intel has sold all of it's interests and fab for Optane to Micron. this will be announced sometime today or tomorrow.
     
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    Lol Intel doesn't have hundreds of billions of dollars of liquid assets floating overseas. The Micron deal is only 1.5B. They can't buy Nvidia with cash on hand and they definitely don't have double Nvidia's marketvalue on hand.
     

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  17. ManofGod

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    Look I get it you feel the need to prop your lord and savior Nvidia up but do it with integrity.

    Objectivity is dead in this day.

    Fixed that for you. (All 3 that specifically signed that 5 year NDA but hey, what do I know.) We will have to see if GN and Linus gets treated in the exact same way as Hardware Unboxed, because they received the ban hammer.
     
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    So that's all you got? Facts prove you wrong and that's all you got. At least Undying (a big AMD fan and admittedly so) is being objective in here.
     
  19. Maddness

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    According to this, both Nvidia and AMD were affected quite badly.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-best-stock-2018,38308.html
     
  20. ManofGod

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    "Facts" If being objective means I have to take off my thinking cap and simply except what someone else says is the case, then yeah, guess I am not objective. The V64 is a 1080 equivalent and the V56 is between a 1070 and 1070ti. The 2070 is more or less a 1080.
     

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