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Nvidia CEO: Radeon VII is lousy and nothing new

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. waltc3

    waltc3 Master Guru

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    JHH really sounds the idiot, lately. Ray-tracing? Hah. What a ridiculous joke--what a clown! "Step right up folks and be amazed as we turn on our Tensor cores in order to do a lousy job of ray tracing five pixels each frame--and marvel at how our frame-rate plummets 50%! Step right up, folks, this baby is going to separate you from your pocketbook!" Man, he is surely rattled to toss out mindless drivel like this. Sheesh. nVidia will squash your wallet flat, too--what a deal...;)
     
  2. Chastity

    Chastity Ancient Guru

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    As Denial pointed out, you haven't used their product for several years. The drivers since Catalyst have improved with the new dev team, and offer some very nice features. My 390 experience has been great, except for Wattman support, they never did get that right. However, if you have a more recent Polaris or Vega, you do some undervolting for the Vega, set up Chill to use your FreeSync range min+5 fps and upper max range, enable FS, and you have a quiet card, lowered power consumption and heat, and smooth gameplay. On my 4K screen I used 45-60 fps, and it rocked.
     
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  3. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Man, you know nothing. I look few times a year to threads about nVidia's drivers. What I read there says that nVidia has worst drivers from PC-GPU trio. And that means they are worse than intel's.
    This is not common quote from AMD's drivers thread:
    No, this is from newest nVidia driver thread. Objectively looking at issues at hand, fixes and experiences users have...

    You are writing about AMD's drivers like if those were ATi's 15+ years ago.
     
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  4. warlord

    warlord Ancient Guru

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    He is worried sick, because if an old gpu refreshed like Radeon VII Vega 2 is strong enough to be the 4th strongest gpu for gaming(Titan RTX>=2080TI>=2080>=Radeon VII), the cheapest NAVI variant in CrossFire will destroy RTX 2080TI hands down. :)

    Anyway, even if I admire NVIDIA, I should refresh JHH's memory that AMD has no superiority complex. You can crossfire from top to bottom like RX 560 series. :D

    With Nvidia you cannot SLI RTX 2070 or 2060 simply to not destroy that overpriced RTX 2080TI. ;)
     

  5. GREGIX

    GREGIX Master Guru

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    U have to have something wrong with ur system/mobo/psu, or just had bad luck. Never ever had problems u seems to have had. 5 different platforms(AMD/Intel), from 7970 to fury and vega 64 lately(in my sons PC now) there was not such issue as completely bad drivers. Yes, there are some revisions where something in some game may be working wrong or not at all. Yes, there can be some fkd functionality(like in relive on some version, do not remember now, my son using it). But there are other version, and they works.
    Have, and had nvidias gfx too, and their drivers sometimes can suck real hard too. From CTD to broken g-sync or, well, broken fan curve.
     
  6. HeavyHemi

    HeavyHemi Ancient Guru

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    Huh, one of them is a successful CEO, another is some nobody wanker on a forum with a hangover slurring insults. "Sheesh"... is right if you thought YOU look impressive with this screeching.
     
  7. Fox2232

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    Well, once both do same, they are same. Because you are what you do. On other hand, if you view one as that "some nobody wanker", I guess you do not expect anything reasonable, good or decent.

    Remind me again, which part of your text was about Jensen and which about yourself?
     
  8. snight01

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    Nvidia had issues especially some really horrid drivers in the past but nothing can compare to amd. They completely ignored for over a year. The last card i had from them was the 7970 and it was very awesome on paper but had zero driver support. It was extremely buggy.

    Not defending any company, but i will state facts as a customer. I've lost count how many times i've upgraded my amd proccessor when i was strict amd. The best thing a pc gamer can do is go intel and nvidia. AMD doesnt care about its customers, it just cares about winning some race with nvidia and intel.

    I'll never go a amd system ever again.
     
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  9. Fox2232

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    Surprise me. I had HD7970 from day it was released till day Fury X was released.
     
  10. Maddness

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    C'mon guys. Please don't make this personal. It's only a piece of hardware. Both have there strengths and weaknesses. We are all here because we enjoy gaming and such.
     
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  11. Chastity

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    I said this on another forum, and I'll post it here. My prediction is that by 2025, NVIDIA will be an irrelevant company, much like what happened to Creative Labs and soundcards.
     
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    doubt it.
     
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    If amd keeps going @ this rate then nvidia wil never get a decent competition thats pretty horrible if u ask me, prices are going to get even higher on nvidia,s side. This new r7 chip is just a two years old gtx 1080 ti with 16 gb of vram thats it. nothing more and nothing less.
     
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    Gotta love it when people have zero clue as to how resource intensive and how miraculous it is that we even have ray tracing at any resolution that is playable, come up and spew their nonsense.

    Congratulations.
     
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    That's definitely one way of looking at it and is quite an accurate statement given what we know so far, what is even more disappointing is that this new AMD GPU is on a 7nm rather than the 16nm of the 1080ti, and has pretty much the same power consumption as the 1080ti, while at the same performance level...this is not really progress! When NVidia goes 7nm (in about year 2020) I can see AMD getting blown out of the water again! Navi for AMD is gonna have to be a major architectural step up, because it'll be on the same 7nm process node as this underwhelming Radeon VII, so they won't have a process node advantage for any additional performance they are yet to find.
     

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    Why do you need reminding you're a wanker? ;) I of course never claimed to be a CEO. Come on, at least try an adult argument.
     
  17. MonstroMart

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    To be fair the main reason you don't upgrade an Intel cpus is because ... well ... you can't most of the time. My last computer was Intel and was not upgradable at all without changing the whole thing.

    I've had my current Ryzen build for around 2 years soon and it's still working very fine. I will update it next year because well i can but if like my last Intel build it would not be upgradable at all i would just keep it this way.

    As for GPUs i upgrade my nVidia gpu as fast as i upgrade my AMD ones. I owned just 3 ATI/AMD GPUs though. The Rage Fury which was pure utter crap. The 9800 pro flashed as an XT which is still to this day one of the best GPU i owned and the 5850 which was fine for the price i paid but i upgraded it quickly.

    I owned pretty good nVidia GPUs but some pretty awful ones too. The 770 comes to my mind as a very disappointing one if not downright awful. Was not much of an upgrade over the 670 and was a lot worse than the 970 released very soon after. Very forgettable GPU. As for drivers the Vista debacle alone ...
     
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  18. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    We have a proverb: "Zamést si před vlastním prahem."
    Bluntly translated: "Check your own $h*7 before you call others for it."

    I guess you never realize how much you call others different names... which as result of your behavior end up being suitable for yourself.
     
  19. Maddness

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    Yeah man. I really love that about the RyZen Setup. Keeping the same board and ram and only changing out the CPU every second generation. Massive win for AMD there. Can't for the life of me understand why Intel can't do something similar.
     
  20. anticupidon

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    I usually don't comment on claims from manchild CEOs.
    But it irks me to hear someone lacking the basics of being polite and integrity.
    Calling anyone, anything names, or declaring inferiority doesn't make someone something superior. That's people's job to decide WHO is gonna get their money, based on real assessing, value, price, benchmarks, and needs covered by features offered by the product.
    Oh, and one more thing.
    Nvidia, WHY on Earth did you over-engineered the RTX 2060?
    Wanna see in detail:



    Pot calling the kettle black sounds familiar? I assure you, my money will never go for an Nvidia card. rest assured, neither my friends and relatives.
    Keep going, wish you the best of luck with this douche attitude.
     
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