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NVIDIA CEO Hands out Special Titan V GPUs to Elite AI Researchers

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    I know Huang is really full of himself but seriously... CEO edition Titan V for elite researchers? That must be the most pretentious thing he's done. Someone really needs to keep his ego in check.

    Don't get me wrong - I think these Titan Vs make for a great gift that should go toward great things, but he doesn't need to elevate his significance or pat himself on the back while doing it. They could've just called it "Special Edition" and replace "Elite" with really any positive-describing word that isn't so classist. The signature is fine.
     
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    Nvidia should start making some descent drivers again. The used to care about working on performance gains in games and fixing things wrong. Most people dont care and just give them more reason too not care. I hope intel and AMD hurt them real bad right were it hurts in there wallet Than this cocky bastard will shut his mouth and get to work
     
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    I couldn't help but think of Silicon Valley...
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    warlord Maha Guru

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    He is not afraid of anything, Nvidia is far far away ahead of both Intel and AMD in GPU technologies as a whole. He is laughing at them. Do any of you here remember his "Laughabee" reference for intel's larrabee failure? Radeon technologies for more than a decade is Nvidia's bitch. Huang is the absolute authority and emperor of AI and Graphics based in GPU architecture and it is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. This is the reality, numbers talk. Everything else is fanboy-ism and inferiority complex against green empire.
     
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    It seems you are reading this wrong.

    Jen said nothing about these people being elite; check any other article and you'll see none of them mention anything about these 'elites'.
    It's just a word used to fluff this article up.

    He gave away 20 full GV100 GPUs for free and you are calling him pretentious.. lol

    Lastly, marketing is fully responsible for naming conventions of products, not Jen
     
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    HeavyHemi Ancient Guru

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    Wow...so much anger and depression over someone doing well and praising others for doing well. Just what it is that makes you folks happy...being angry at strangers?
     
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    HeavyHemi Ancient Guru

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    On the other hand this sort of silly fanboy goofyness, while not the fault of Nvidia, can't help but leave a bad taste in your mouth for some of their fans. It's a company son, not your girlfriend.
     
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    It doesn't matter if he himself said it; Nvidia as a whole calls them elites:
    https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/...al-titan-v-gpus-on-elite-ai-researchers-cvpr/
    Again, the act of giving them isn't pretentious and is an act I approve of. But calling these "CEO editions" by putting his name on it sounds very much like "this is only special because of me". How is that not pretentious? You have to consider the whole picture here, not just this 1 variable. In the big picture, Huang isn't known for being humble. In other words, having a "CEO edition" isn't inherently pretentious, but it is when someone like Huang does it. For example if Krzanich did a CEO edition of the 8086K giveaway, I wouldn't have thought much of it other than being a little odd.
    And I'm sure he's heavily involved in the marketing decisions of Nvidia. Considering his ego, it is pretty safe to assume he would deliberately insert himself in this.
     
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    Like it or not Nvidia is No1 right now on the market of graphics and AI computing. Jensen is only doing what he knows better than anyone.. thats all! It is merely only a show for him, just another good performed show and by giving those researchers a nice gift with 32GB of HBM2, "A nice welcome to the green family that is", he's ensuring that everyone in the planet with key role in AI is involved as nvidia has intended to. Don't be fooled by the news... CEO EDITION ohh well we've seen that too...! What's next..??!! :D
     
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    This could be my new card, if there´s a special giveaway during the next christmas contest...
     
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    I personally don't question Nvidia being #1, I have nothing against the event, and I agree it's a very nice gift. My gripe is nothing more than Jensen elevating his importance too much, and the implications behind using words like "elite". To me, there's a big difference between saying "the most deserving recipients" vs "only the best get to receive". The latter statement is unnecessarily provocative to those who aren't (in the eyes of Huang, since it's his name on the box) elites.
     
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    I still don't get your 'elitist' wording.

    Jen never says elite in the presentation; you are quoting a specific person who wrote a news article
     
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    I want two of these to go along with 6 Acer X27's. Can't afford it? Just get a better job or something.
     
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    Look up the definition of elite (from Google):
    "a group or class of people seen as having the greatest power and influence within a society, especially because of their wealth or privilege."
    By this definition, elitism is a result of classism. It's basically like saying "only these people are worthy" and in my opinion, I don't like that connotation. A more positive approach would've been to describe them as earning these GPUs.
    I know that... I don't know why you keep insisting that I said otherwise. In my last reply to you, I gave a link from Nvidia's own blog that uses the same word. Therefore, it is phrasing approved by the company.
     

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    I'm well aware what elitist means.

    But a blog poster is using their own words in reviewing a presentation; do you actually think a CEO has time(or even does, they don't) to proof read through one of many blog posts?

    Answer is no.

    So for you to say Jensen is approving of the elite attitude is a bit out there if you ask me.

    From first hand experience doing IT with a large newspaper/article company for a big city, I can tell you that the CEO does not read through the articles written by employees. Not to mention that anyone who writes any kind of news/article has some form of their own opinions.

    I'm not saying you're wrong the word elite is the best choice of words but you excluded that it also means 'the best of the best'; someone who has a great amount of skill in something.

    Elite warriors, elite programmers, etc.
    None of these people are getting rewarded because they are 'privileged or wealthy'.

    It's safe to assume some of those guests haven't done much of anything to be considered wealthy or privileged.
    Lastly, being 'elite' generally is because you earned it.

    You work hard and earn the right to be an elite anything, it's not a given.

    You are contexting the word in the wrong way as if NVIDIA is classifying others as peasants or lesser people; I see no negative implications assumed by the word.

    Your argument can be applied to anyone who receives awards for being good at what they do.

    Anyways, just saying one guy's word is not another guy's word and beliefs. Nor is anyone getting rewarded for being wealthy or privileged.
     
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    I think you're making too much out of this word. I don't think Nvidia is guilty of elitism here, they're just using a word to describe the top AI researchers (they could have used the word "leading" or "pioneering" and it would have meant the same). I don't think anybody is referencing their wealth or privilege in receiving these GPUs.

    To be fair, the blog post was written by the PR director for their data center business (it's not just some random employee). The PR department usually handles official communications so it's about as authoritative as it will get.
     
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    You seem to have this weird obsession with connecting the word "elite" to Huang and I don't know why.
    That's because I never said or implied that.
    Not true - many people inherit their wealth and prestige. I mean take India for example - that country is heavily based on a caste system, rather than merit.
    Which part of the argument specifically? I'm saying that it's fine to reward people who put hard work into it, regardless of their status. For that reason specifically, I think handing out these GPUs to the researchers is a great thing.
    I agree.
    Treat the word "elite" literally, and yes, that is actually what's happening, hence me pointing it out.

    I'm not trying to make it a big deal, but it keeps being pointed out. I'm actually just more annoyed at Huang's ego, with the word "elite" as a sidebar.
    Anyway, I'm not saying Nvidia is guilty of elitism, I'm saying it's a poor choice of words.
     
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    INTEL used to not be afraid of AMD , look were they are now , just saying :p
     
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    I find it interesting that this is the first full GV100 Titan product.

    And as Hilbert mentions in the article Nvidia is listing it as 125 tflops vs the GV100's 112 tflops. Must have been some frequency changes.. I guess it's still probably limited on multi-gpu performance vs an NVLink 32GB GV100 setup. Still its pretty impressive to see a full 800mm2 chip in a product that's designed for prosumer market. They must be getting decent yields although I guess they technically aren't selling these yet.
     

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