Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Oct 14, 2022.
nVidia, come on, you're better than this...
This shows how focked up their marketing and sales team is.
And wait, give them a few months to see how many cards they will sell at that price.
Same will happen with motherboard manufacturers.
My understanding is that there are no FE examples of this now-cancelled product. But. if there were, perhaps they would have re-surfaced as Quadro models. (At a really high price.)
As for any existing AIB-partner cards, I'd advise them agreeing among themselves to just go with, "RTX 4000 Very Limited Edition."
You know, just to cut their losses.
The 4080/12 is very similar to a 3080/12 in rast. It should be a 4060ti, not even a 4070. The 4070 should MATCH the performance of a 3080ti. The 4080/16 should be $900.
this reminds me again;
NaughtyVidia Nobody does it better!
From a logical standpoint How do you expect a MCM design with total die space of 500mm2 to beat a 600mm2 monolithic when both AMD and Nvidia are on TSMC 5nm now? at best I could think is Navi31 perform around 4080 16GB.
MCM is not magic, it is supposed to bypass the reticule limit by bunching up smaller dies together.
It was already an accomplisment that Navi21 doubled Navi10 performance when more than doubling the die size 250mm2 to 530mm2. With Navi31 being the first MCM GPU I expect a manufacturing cost benefit, not a performance king. More than likely that Navi31 is around 4080 performance and costing 700-800usd, that's why Nvidia has to adjust "4070" name and pricing
This is over a decade old, but still relevant as ever, the name just needs to updated to nGreedia:
I think it's a good decision. They rightfully got flak for calling two cards that are completely differently specced 4080. Now they've corrected that, and that's a move that takes balls. Most companies would need a lot more pressure on them before even considering a course correction, or would stick to their error no matter what. I think as well that they'll reintroduce that die as 3070 or 3070ti, and that's where it belongs. And current pricing ? Strategic as is the current shortage of 4090s. They want the 3000 series stock gone, so they make the 4000 series as unattractive as they can for now. Still they had to at least paper launch it to stay ahead of AMD. Come November and AMD 7000 series, and I bet some things will change.
Nvidia puts the 80 where ever it makes sense for the generation.
280/285 - 512
480/580 - 384
680 - 256
780 - 384
9 - 256
10 - 256
20 - 256
30 - 320
40 - 256
If you continue further back, it becomes evident with the shenanigans nvidia started pulling with kepler, and has continued ever since...
people can afford it - that's a bad move
people who can't - now we are talking
So they're not going to release a 4070, 4060 and 4050 next year?
or just how competitive amd were.
Great. Now give us a $699 rtx 0080 card.
As RTX3080 was 699 $ MSRP
They have done it with the GTX1060 6GB (1280 shaders) vs 3GB (1152 shaders) and the 3080 10GB (8704 shaders) vs 12GB (8960 shaders). Nothing stopped Nvidia to scam the consumers with their naming.
AMD was very competitive against kepler.
The moment that nvidia started to pull away was with Maxwell. And Pascal was just a bloodbath.
But the big take away is that we need competition to nvidia, be it from AMD or Intel. Otherwise, the ones that suffer are consumers.
no solid leaks on navi 3x performance for months is worrying.
Maybe. But it could be that AMD has better control over it's information.
Also remember that the "leaks" with Ada Lovelace were mostly some guys throwing every possible spec at the wall, until something stuck.
Wow. Just wow! Did NVIDIA not do ANY market research on the naming of the RTX 4080 12 GB model or did they honestly think they could get away with naming a XX70 product and selling at a much higher cost based on the name alone (a product that is already being sold at a much higher cost that the previous RTX 3080)?
I don't know what it is worse: the fact that NVIDIA have become so incredibly greedy that they thought they could get away with it without anyone noticing or that NVIDIA have had to pull this launch, which, without a doubt, must be a huge, huge embarrassment to their shareholders.
Maybe it's just me but is nobody worried that this brings a worse SKU for a less attractive price instead of the 12GB 4080? Knowing Nvidia and all, and how they want to get you to flash out more money for the bigger card? I guess we shall see.