Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by (.)(.), Nov 6, 2016.
As long as it's only keeping performance/compatibility statistics without personal identification (and yes, it is possible to do that), it's a smart move.
The only change I want nvidia to make is to remove the forced login from GFE 3.
What is the purpose of telemetry for a video card driver?
Types of games played, settings, performance data, logs when driver crashes, etc.
Data is super important for everything, even without any personal information attached. The unfortunate aspect is that many people equate it to spying due to targeted marketing.
I think driver telemetry could be a good thing, leaving mine enabled
But people are plagued with paranoia.
Before telemetry: People experience a bug, they see a BSOD, or stuttering, or a certain part of Windows doesn't work anymore / game crashes
They report to NVIDIA/AMD
NVIDIA/AMD can not reproduce
End user can not explain the problem in enough detail because they can only see the outcome of the bug
Bug remains in subsequent drivers for months and people start flooding forums with angry posts about the same bug still causing the same problem driver after driver
After telemetry: (In theory) - NVIDIA/AMD see a detailed report of the bug and the cause coming in from a whole range of different setups in real-time, quickly get it fixed for the next driver release / issue a hotfix without having to pull teeth from end-user who can only describe the symptoms
I think thats unfair.
I didnt start this threadto cause paranoia. I simply think its fair people are aware of what their PC's ...you know Personal computers, are doing.
Absolutely right and thanks for making us aware of it.
People should have the choice, that is the point.
Same here, i stopped caring about data collection. It's what happens all day long even when watching TV, making a phone call, cameras in public etc etc.
If you're too paranoid about that you might as well go live as a caveman again.
No doubt there will be CCTV in the cave anyway
I don't mind them adding driver telemetry - I just feel like they should have been opened/talked about it, what they are collecting, why they are collecting it and how it's going to help the driver program.. before they just shoved it into a driver.
I kind of wish Nvidia was just more open/communicable in general about it's drivers/future plans. My experience in the past year or so with their stuff has been less then stellar.
Not to mention they removed the ability to record short 30 second videos...
I already switched to Plays TV.
This is the whole point. Anonymous telemetry, even opt-in, is fine, as long as the option to turn it off exists, and it's not hidden on purpose. I wish they made a nice video about it, explain plainly the implementation and not try to hide.
I dont have that since I never install gfe and all that extra bloatware, for me they can add even more bloatware and I'll happily delete all before I press install driver setup.exe. :grin:
Its not wise to trust data collection, it can be stolen/intercepted/hacked/misused/include abuse of privacy...
Those that call it paranoid, good for you, its not my ass thats gonna be bit.
I'll let you be guinea pigs
It's not paranoid if they're actually after you. That's what needs to be determined.
Anyone seen this in section 3. of the EULA on the 375.70 drivers:
The issue here is that to install the drivers you have automatically agreed to having your personally identifiable data taken by Nvidia, which part is taking that data is probably GFE but who knows what else is sending data back to Nvidia?
That only covers misuse and abuse of privacy.
I stated other ways it can be compromised.
Also check the post above.