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Nvidia acknowledges issues with GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FE

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. NewTRUMP Order

    NewTRUMP Order Master Guru

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    Shhhh your $1400 purchase is a mistake and we will make sure you keep on making those choices wink wink.:mad:
     
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    waltc3 Master Guru

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    Shades of nV30...:oops: Don't know how many of you recall that particular nVidia fiasco--coming as it did on the heels of nVidia's infamous 3DMark cheating fiasco and other things--but for the six months before before nVidia cancelled the NV30 altogether and went back to the drawing board to design something that might actually challenge ATi's R300 GPU release, nVidia did little except to blame its FABs for the failure of the nV30--even switched FABs at least once--or, at least they said they did. Then, at last, they admitted the design problems and pulled the plug.

    I don't think these problems are similar, but it doesn't say much for nVidia's QA, does it?--especially when you consider the enormous expense a few people have paid for these products. I still believe RTX is 100% marketing fluff, but that is all I'm saying at present. Time will tell whether these are design flaws or temporary snafus.
     
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    Only FE? I watched Gamers Nexus test like twenty 2080ti and if i recall there was a nonrefernce evga/gigabyte models thats also crap itself.
     
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  5. tensai28

    tensai28 Maha Guru

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    I don't see anything wrong here. Nvidia is doing what any responsible company would do and offering replacements to people with faulty cards. Don't get the constant negativity.
     
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    I've seen a post elsewhere which spoke of one of these beauties briefly catching fire. While I think that is an outlier, even given the apparent confirmation by Nvidia that there are problems, it still serves as a wonderful example of why it's always prudent to build a system within a metal enclosure. Those clear, all-acrylic cases from a few years back always seemed a bit risky to me.

    The RTX launch hopefully won't end-up like the Titanic launch, but, it's still early, and it's showing signs of heading in that direction.
     
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    My 2 cents it has to do with the design. Thermalgraphs show the hottest part of the card is in the center where the DDR sit. THe two fans are at the ends of the card with only one pushing air from the end of the card to outside the case before getting added cooling by the second. This means cooler (relatively) hits the end of the card and may not be cool enough or with enough flow to cool the DDR chips over time. The aftermarket cards most have a three fan design with one fan directly in the center where the DDR sits actively cooling that hot spot.
     
  8. NewTRUMP Order

    NewTRUMP Order Master Guru

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    Well Nvidia isn't exactly being transparent on the problem. They won't say what the percentage is on the failing cards. Thus the pervasive disgruntled, negative consumer. I know I would want to be an informed consumer when making a $1300 purchase on the quality of the item. Simply saying if it breaks we will fix it doesn't exactly give you a warm and fuzzy feeling. How about saying there is only a 2.25 percent chance your card will fail which is the average failure rate on all gpu's? Is that so much to ask for? I think not. And it would go a long way in helping to squash all the rumor mongering and I am sure sales.
     
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    I loved the "leafblower" so much I purchased a Radeon card for the first and only time in my life. I don't know if the RTX cards will perform better after multiple driver revisions and gains in game developer experience, but I will keep using my GTX1080 and wait for the next refresh to sort these problems out. I still respect nvidia for the innovation but I hate the "cash grab" pricing.
     
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    The negativity is because IT should of never happened in the first place. Their QA teams must be awful to let such a big issue slip through their fingers like that.

    Sure Nvidia will replace them but what about compensation to those that will be without their Ti and have the hassle of RMA.
     

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    I get the negativity, in the sense that Nvidia had plenty of time to do proper testing and QA. However, I do feel they're handling this situation properly.

    What exactly would Nvidia gain by telling us more information? Not that I'm against better transparency, but nobody will gain anything of importance in this context. Since this doesn't seem to be a problem of newer-batch parts, knowing the actual statistic isn't useful for anyone who may be thinking of buying one of these. The fact they're not telling us the actual stats means it's probably a higher percentage than they'd like to admit. They're fixing the problem (as they should) and it appears to only be an issue to early adopters, so in the end it's not a long-term problem and it [probably] isn't a problem that anyone who doesn't own the product needs to worry about.
     
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    They are definitely handling it properly from business perspective. That means downplaying any issue to keep sales as high as possible.
     
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    well my rtx 2080ti asus rog strix is curently on its way to rma because of artifact issues that closely matches the fe issues, so i doubt it is exclusive to early founders edition cards but can't say for sure
     

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    I read that someone with an evga 2080ti xc just caught on fire while browsing the internet....
     
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    This is disappointing and uncalled for......... With the money this company has and no pressure on competition on high end cards Nvidia should of tested these better.
     
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    NVidia has no quality control. All and everything there is stamped by the famous "Hand of Huang and the overwhelming jacket's prestige". You can't expect any negativity ever, it is a random unexpected bunch of events due to universe's conscience.
     
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    I heard that someone with the FE edition got murdered and the body was never seen again!


    Sorry I just had to :D
     
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    LOL. Quality control was used on more important issues like testing the perfect sized leather jackets and tight polo shirts that try and make Nvidias CEO more buff looking.
     
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