Nokia 808 PureView with 41MP camera

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  1. Anarion

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    Symbian Belle phone with 4" nHD screen. 16GB built in memory, microSD slot. It shoots 1080p video and is said to have awesome audio quality (compared to other smart phones).

    Nokia 808 PureView lens and sensor specifications

    • Carl Zeiss Optics
    • Focal length: 8.02mm
    • 35mm equivalent focal length: 26mm, 16:9 | 28mm, 4:3
    • F-number: f/2.4
    • Focus range: 15cm – Infinity (throughout the zoom range)
    • Construction:
    · 5 elements, 1 group.All lens surfaces are aspherical
    · One high-index, low-dispersion glass mould lens
    · Mechanical shutter with neutral density filter
    • Optical format: 1/1.2”
    • Total number of pixels: 7728 x 5368
    • Pixel Size: 1.4 microns

    White paper: http://europe.nokia.com/PRODUCT_MET...00-series/808/Nokia808PureView_Whitepaper.pdf

    Also, before the lol megapixels people jump in the whole point is to improve 5MP and 8MP and other sane resolution image quality. The sensor is 2.5 times bigger than in N8.

    Original untouched 7728x4354 image (and old firmware) which I scaled down to 1280x721 (EDIT: image changed):
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    Low light video sample: http://youtu.be/8nqOIiGU5xM?hd=1
    It records at 25mbps in high profile H.264 format, so YouTube obviously causes compression artifacts and lowers the quality.
     
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    Lets put it this way, a 2.5x larger sensor is still only tiny compared to what it should be for that res. Not even close to full frame and even they don't push the res that high (bar a few exceptions)

    Edit: that photo is soft. Also, at that res, I'd love to see the noise on a high iso low light shot. it would be awful.
     
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    Looks good :)

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    Again, the point is not to be able to shoot 41MP pictures. This phone has larger sensor than many point and shoot cameras. That picture was a jsut quick resample.

    For comparison Nikon COOLPIX P7100 has 1/1.7" sensor. Nokia N8 has 1/1.83" this has 1/1.2".
     
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    Cool, should be able to get good enough pictures for most of the people.
     
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    What a load of crap, start getting better optics and I'd like to see a phone with optical zoom.
     
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    If there's a phone company that cares about optics, it's Nokia.
     
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    Why do you need a 41 MP camera? Hell, last time I had a Nokia phone, the camera sucked. My old Sony Ericsson W810i had a better camera than the Nokia XpressMusic 5800 with a 3.2 MP...

    My Samsung Nexus S has a better camera than the Nokia, so I'm not too happy with Nokia when it comes to cameras.

    Could just be that model, but the crappy quality basically turned me away from Nokia having good cameras.

    deltatux
     

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    If there are any true smartphone developers out there, it's Nokia for sure. I still have the N95 from 2007, which at the time was Nokia's flagship phone. And as far as innovation goes, the N95 was one of Nokia's best, and the camera was untouchable from any other phone for at least 2 years.

    This is one of Nokia's smartphones that has optical zoom.

    http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n93i-1823.php
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    Though the phone may have a decent camera, what about the rest of the outdated hardware?

    For starters, it has:

    A resolution of 640 x 360
    184 ppi pixel density
    1.3 GHz ARM 11 CPU

    The screen is among the lowest quality in the market, most other phones have 800x480 or more.

    And a pixel density of just 184? It may be decent for a 3'' or smaller screen but it's quality will show on a larger screen.

    A 1.3GHz cpu to run a 41mp camera? And when going through your photo gallery to view images that are over 10mb in size how will it perform?

    It is well underpowered.
     
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    Sorry but I can't ever value your opinion again. I had three N95's, they were genuinely one of the worst phones I have ever used. This was not a fault as all three did the same thing, they were slow, even opening the settings menu had a 3 second delay before it even appears, forget a delay opening apps, even the settings an integral part of the OS took longer than any other phone I've ever seen.

    I didn't realise they made a phone with optical zoom, shame it's ugly and runs symbian though.
    Also still doesn't change the fact of how stupid this 41mp camera is.

    Thanks, that looks good, wonder if it will ever sell here though?
     

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    It has dedicated chip for image processing. It works smoothier than my Galaxy S. Also the screen is not pentile so one could say that it looks better than, say, Galaxy S screen. When it comes to camera quality my mothers Nokia N86 kicks the crap out of my poor Galaxy S and bros Galaxy S 2.

    People still fail to understand the benefits of this approach, especially for zooming. Downsampling 41MP into something sane will have many benefits too.
     
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    Actually, that I have to agree on. Symbian S60 is a $HIT OS, innovative, but badly coded.

    As for the phone itself, Nokia done a really good job with the overall design, minus it's short comings.

    Maemo and Meego should be their platform OS for a while as it runs quite well on mid-ranged devices.

    Each to their own, I guess.
     
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    Just wanted to point out that this doesn't run S60. S60 was basically meant Avkon UI, Symbian Belle does not. In fact the UI is fully hardware accelerated now and the UI doesn't really have anything in common with old S60 UI. Symbian itself is extremely efficient OS, UI's have been PITA before.
     
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