Next Generation NVIDIA Ampere reportedly to offer 50% more perf at half the power

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  1. DeskStar

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    And those are the people crying about how they can't get out to do anything let alone afford to.....
     
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    Nope it won't. Wouldn't care if it were $800 a year. It's my cup of tea..... Get it. Some people smoke cigarettes others play high fidelity bad ass games cranked up at Uber resolutions.
     
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    Just leave the man be ... he has his hobby and admire his dedication and the time and money invested. Do you think that if someones buys 4xTitans really cares about electricity ? Just think about it for a second.
     
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    Around 300$ per month is the average fast food or delivery cost for a full-time working adult. Imagine telling them to use their kitchen to make some healthy food. They would shout about electricity! :D
     

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    No, those were just cards that had two individual, separate GPUs installed on them. Those GPUs were originally designed to work alone, and thus they worked like two regular cards in Crossfire/SLI, more or less. If you create an MCM GPU, the chiplets inside will be designed from the ground up to work as a single unit, just like they do in the Ryzen CPUs. Increased latency and other issues are the things the engineers need to figure out.
     
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    They've done it before. Maybe not 50%, but they've had some good generation to generation leaps in performance, even when AMD couldn't compete. I don't think we'll see it happen this time though. I'm guessing RTX performance will be the focus because let's face it, it needs to be.

    Also, they have to continue pushing themselves. Nothing worse than becoming lazy and then having a rude awakening.
     
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    Yeah, Nvidia is a respectable company in my book, so I won't doubt their desire to push the boundary. However, there has to be a limit to how huge chips they are willing to manufacture for the masses.
     
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    If true this is huge!
     
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    Here is to seriously hoping for the goodie good in all of this...
     
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    you both got me completely wrong what i wanted to say other than showing that his own estimate of how much it will cost to run the cards on his area showing that pretty much it can be as low as 10 bucks a year up to 300 ...pretty much i was presenting my argument in high detail why the 273 euros he posted was completely irrelevant ^^
     
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    It'll still be a massive die, and if they put out a card that outperforms the 2080 Ti by 50% at the same price or even cheaper, then they make themselves look really bad. So a more expensive card is coming.
     
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    If its 50% more performance, id be suprised if they cut the price to less than the 2080Ti at launch, id imagine that whatever is at the same level as the 2080Ti for performance (3070 maybe???) will be priced the same as the 2080Ti then they cut the price of the 2080Ti series.
     
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    The "half the power" intrigues me the most. I can always save up for an upgrade, but the continuous electricity bills are another issue for someone with my modest income. XD If it turns out true, then skipping 2xxx and 2xxxS was a good move.
     
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    Got to remember that Nvidia will probably still be on this node for the 4xxx series so they will hold back on performance for the 3xxx by making the chips smaller (i.e. less cores) so they can be sure of a good performance boost for the 4xxx chips a year later. Hence I expect a rasterized performance boost of more like 35% (which is about what they normally give). There's going to be a bigger boost to ray tracing and DLSS however as that's the new thing, and the area where performance is weakest.
     
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    having never been the case at any point in the past, i doubt it.
     

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    I don't think that's gonna happen, when the new cards launch I think they'll set the prices of their 3xxx series range at the same price or lower than what they did for the 2xxx series at that launch...so they'll lower the price of any 2xxx series stock that is left over. So for example I think the RTX 2060 and RTX 3060 launch price will be the same (or maybe lower) - I think 2xxx series cards were hampered by their high launch price and poor generation on generation performance...these 3xxx series card will be a bigger generational performance increase, but I think they realise they overpriced the 2xxx cards and that it's time for them to start winning back the hearts & minds of their fans, I think they realise that their brand has been diluted and somewhat tarnished by the 2xxx generation even if they do happen to still be the fastest gaming GPUs that we have access to.
     
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    Never is very strong word. I think that it is in realm of possible. And both AMD and nVidia will push for it even for gaming. Otherwise they'll pull out of gaming when server grade GPUs become much more cost efficient to make thanks to becoming MCM enabled.
    (Why would they throw 35% of wafer away to make crazy big gaming dies when they can have just 5~10% waste on smaller dies for MCM?)

    Then there is cloud gaming. It is in rather awkward position, right? One who can get MCM working eats it whole over time due to being cheaper for same performance.

    I think there are reasons for both to try their best and get it working over time. Maybe 1st few generations of GPUs which will work in MCM will sux at gaming, but over time, they'll analyze, understand and improve on those limiting factors.
     
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    Rumor has it, big Navi will be Rdna2, 2021 release together with zen 3, rtx is deadly weaker, Huang leaves Nvidia, Intel takes a huge loan and Lisa Su goes for US president. la profecia!
     
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    rumor cannot decide if its navi2 or navi+
     
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    Gotcha! Thought for sure if was the other way around...
     
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