New Windows 11 Patch Worsens Ryzen L3 Cache Latency, AMD Announces Fix Dates

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  1. Tracker1

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    After the past few years on Windows insiders builds I've moved back to Linux (Ubuntu-Budgie) as my main OS… funny, I don't even have a windows install on my desktop at the moment. Insiders channel was completely broken for me, was ahead of the release version, v11 want great when it did work. WSLg want enough to keep me.

    I may put Windows 10 on a different drive if I need it, but would rather get stuff done for now, and windows no longer gives me that.
     
  2. moo100times

    moo100times Master Guru

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    This. Microsoft's new OS releases usually need some big patches to get them up to scratch. Win 98 2nd ed, XP sp1 patch and so forth
     
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    My work PC is still on Windows 7 :D
     
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    Me after upgrading all systems just to 20H2 standing like a boss :)
     
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    Ha, that's a lot of presumptions and assumptions, might you be wanting to troll here without knowing what is going to hit you ?

    I game in 4K with freesync, everything smooth like you probably haven't experienced yet. Keep defending your masters, but it won't help either.
    If you call one benchmark "a lot of time justifying" you are again trying to paint a picture as if you are the allknowing queen of Sheba.
    Oh and, anything windows 11 "demands" has been running since 2016 on this Old PC, yes every bit of security they call new has allways been there practically. Most so called PC geeks never caught up and stayed in frikkin BIOS land instead of UEFI because they allways think they know better. And now they get forced to learn the new standard.
    Mature people allready know what kind of troll you are purely by your toddler response of playing directly on the person and prefferably below the belt insinuations you just picked up yesterday from a real smart person. Have a nice day peasant.
     
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    You are not the only one who thinks so ' , many complaints , I think many do not know how to put their hand on a PC .
     
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    I see all the new w11 bios have mostly been released. I wonder if they effect CPU performance.
     
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    Updated my x570 gigabyte f36d bios with w11 support but no difference in performance.
     
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    I don't mind beta testing when you know you are beta testing. I did a lot of beta testing when I was younger. I recall beta testing this piece of junk game called World Of Warcraft(I hated the beta so much I never did buy it lol). Windows 11 is obviously beta quality being shoved to the public like its golden. It is like XP or Vista in that regard. I do think Windows 11 might turn out like XP its just most should stay away from it for a 6 months or so to let the teething issues get resolved just like most should have waited for XP SP1.
     
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    they get everyone and their dog to install this garbage, then gather all the data they can, run it through some crappy analysis and decide which bugs to fix, rather than just providing an iso and a place to report bugs, the quality of that kind of feedback must be 1000X better than what they get now, and they probably would have 1/10000th the stuff to sift through too.
     
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    I think it lends even more credence to the dirty tricks played by Intel throwing money and programmers at MS to ensure there new CPU looks better than the competition by hamstringing the competition, it also speaks volumes about the stupidity or willingness of the MS team to take a massive bung!
    Typical Intel they never change if you cant beat them fairly then go round the back and pay someone else to do it
     
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    They do provide an ISO and a place to report bugs. Problem is, the bug reports lack the kind of detail they used to contain. Problem is, MS has always taken bug reports as a joke. WinXP, upon release, was in just as bad a shape as Beta 1 was....yet, we went through 2 beta releases and 2 release candidates... There were thousands of bug reports filed for both betas but MS didn't seem interested in addressing any of them. Compared to WinXP at launch, W11 is perfect....

    I'm not seeing any performance loss at all personally. In fact, all of my benchmark runs are within the margin of error.... If there was something done intentionally, it would be affecting everyone.
     
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    I believe I'm seeing some issues in CPU bound agent simulations (Transport Fever 2 for example). Unfortunately, such niche titles rarely have any effective way of benchmarking performance. Difficult to rule out confirmation bias, and I don't have another AMD system to compare with.
     
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    fair enough, though I would still argue that considering the ecosystem they have now, the fact that such a major bug can make its way into retail on a platform they claim to "support", is pretty inexcusable, its not like its some esoteric hardware configuration that's effected, its nearly half of all the new pcs that they intend to ship to/with.

    back in the xp days they had alot more weird (and buggy) hardware configurations to deal with, and much less information about them ,less staff, so It was more forgivable imo.
     
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    They also had thousands of beta testers filing dozens of extremely well detailed bug reports near hourly on some days....and yet, the retail release was in just as bad a shape as Beta 1 was.... Even Beta 2, RC1 and RC2 were far more stable than what was actually released. RC1 and RC2 were "feature complete"....so there's zero excuse for the retail release being less stable. It felt like MS took all of our hard work and said "screw it, we're shipping Beta 1 as retail".....
     

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