New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by OnnA, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    NV screwed up with PhysX not completely unlike what they are doing with Gsync now.

    Proprietary is good as long as it offers clear advantage and is able to stand on its own. Like CUDA for example.

    But once competing techniques catch up, you ought to release it into wild. Say like what AMD did with Mantle. So instead of having the dead duck, they have their code in new Vulkan standard.
    Not ****ing rocket science :D
     
  2. Denial

    Denial Ancient Guru

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    Well said and I agree.
     
  3. Valken

    Valken Maha Guru

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    Going OT....

    I couldn't wait for Vega as everytime I enabled SVP or anything 3D, my PC would reboot or turn off. I know its the GPU since if I turned on the onboard GPU, no issues.

    So I head to the PC parts center in town and all the vendors here passed the 470/480 back to AMD to be "refurbished" to 570/580 (seriously was what 3 of them said to me).

    Dealers were charging 200 USD for 1060s and tried to sell me 570 4GB for the same! Grrr....

    I did find that one MSI ARMOR 480 4 GB for 174 USD but I ended up with a Forsa 1060 GTX Fury OC Edition for 183 USD. Just a box, GPU, CDROM and packing materials only!

    The ONLY reason I got it was because I am still on Windows 7 and don't play anything with DX12 (yet). Just ARMA 3 (DX11) and Brutal Doom (OpenGL) for now, but eyeballing Prey 2.

    Its my temp card until Vega comes out, then I will bung this card cheap on Guru and get then upgrade.

    PS: Man this GPU is shorter, uses only 1x 6pin plug, super cool, and is QUIET!

    PPS: Screen is totally washed out so I have recalibrate the TV again!!! GRR...
     
  4. Turanis

    Turanis Maha Guru

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    3GB? Common you can do better than this.
    6-8 GB are the way.

    I dont know if Vega will do better than what we have now on the market,but we should let hype flow down.
    We have Fury,but was a big nope,because low Rops,we have RX 480-580 (which again have low Rops) but will perform much better than Gtx 1060 in DX12.
     
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  5. Loophole35

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    Well seeing as he is still on W7 I don't think he cares about DX12. BTW the card he got will play both of the games he was talking about perfect. Don't jump on his case because he chose something different than you would. At 1080 and card in the $175-225 range will be great.
     
  6. angelgraves13

    angelgraves13 Master Guru

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    Vega is probably going to be expensive, so the average gamer won't be able to afford one. I'm guessing $599-699 range for Vega.

    The RX 500 series is a joke. I lost some respect for AMD when they launched it. It's been about a full year, and they've made ZERO improvements to Polaris. They could have upped the transistors, or the compute units. Instead they overclocked it. Give me a break. WTH are you doing AMD?

    Re-branding is a sign of desperation for any company, but I still don't get WHY the RX 500 series exists at all. No one in their right mind would buy it. It's at most 3% faster, and it does that by using more power and being less efficient. That's like going backwards.

    I guess VEGA will be a disappointment as well. Volta on the other hand will be a powerhouse.
     
  7. Tuga

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    We can only hope that AMD will launch an affordable vega for people, so there will be both 1070 and 1080 competitors (in an ideal world that is). I don't see why they couldn't do both the high and mid tier.

    I don't know anything about volta. It could be a turd, or 2018 Q3, who knows?
     
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  8. Ryu5uzaku

    Ryu5uzaku Ancient Guru

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    It's not desperate unless nvidia and amd have been desperate for a long time.
     
  9. OnnA

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    As for ATI vs nV (i ha.te this becuse there is no Progress, only $$$)

    look here and you'll see what MS is doing now to nV (same thing they did to Sound Blaster years ago to prevent them to have Monopoly)

    http://www.4gamer.net/games/033/G003329/20160317117/SS/017.jpg

    Maby THX to that ^^ we can have Progress on Track -> back again :banana:

    DX11.0 Era is finally comes to an End !
    There be no more GW or things like that in the future, uff

    And as for Mind Share :3eyes: we can't argue with such a treat :bang:
     
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  10. Skinner

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  11. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

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    :book:

     
  12. alanm

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    Someone posted on AMDs facebook page:

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    They gave him the coordinates for the star Vega :D.
     
  13. Undying

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    Seems like thats all they have.
     
  14. Only Intruder

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    The sh*tposting on the reddit regarding the same thing is on another level. I guess this means Half Life 3 is confirmed.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Loophole35

    Loophole35 Ancient Guru

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    So if Vega doesn't drop at computex what next?
     

  16. Valken

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    @ Onna - great video... very informative and I notice I always pick the hot heads of each GPU Family - Fermi 465 GTX, Cayman 6950 :D

    At least this 1060 GTX is very cool but still a GIMPED 3GB card with a few shaders less...

    @ Loophole35 - wait for Volta or just buy 1080Ti? There really aren't more other choices for us looking for Vega?
     
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  17. Loophole35

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    Honestly the performance of the updated 1080's is more tempting than the Ti. I just can't justify $700 for a GPU.

    And yes OnnA I know I'm getting somewhat off topic.
     
  18. OnnA

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    No -> Crysis 4 Vulcan 128Bit with HDR 512Bit :)
     
  19. user1

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    rebranding is a marketing strategy, neither nvidia nor amd can produce new silicon that quickly, seems as though both nvidia have adopted 1.5-2~ year new product release strategies

    examples:
    nvidia
    gtx 980 gm204 september 2014, gtx 1080 gp104 june 2016 1y8m~
    gtx titan gk110 febuary 2013, gtx titan X(M)gm200 march 2015 2y1m~
    titan X(m)gm200 march 2015 , titan Xp/ (p)gp102 early variant august 2016 1y5m ,late variant 2y1m~
    gtx 960 gm206 jan 2015 , 1060 gp106 july 2016 1y6m~

    amd
    7970 jan 2012, 290x october 2013 1y9m~
    290x october 2013, fury x june 2015 1y8m~
    7870 march 2012, r9 285 september 2014 2y6m~ (skipped gcn 1.2)
    r9 285 september 2014,rx 480 june 2016 1y9m

    Almost Every product stack has a rebrand or 3 in them, since development is not usually in sync (props to nvidia for managing to get most of their products in relative sync last year).
    This year is a rebrand/clock bump year for both amd and nvidia. I suppose amd could have called this refresh the rx 480 1.3ghz edition lmao.

    The catch is this year amd appears to have a highend product that has skipped a gcn generation, and has an extended the development cycle and has devoted extra resources to it. It may have been in development as long as polaris, as references to greenland first appeared in 15.301 along with ellesmere(polaris) unless of course greenland was a different gpu.

    I expect a june launch for vega, it may be very interesting.
     
  20. Only Intruder

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    You've kinda misrepresented the rebrands there..

    The GTX 680 was rebranded as the GTX 770,
    The 7970 was rebranded as the 280X
    The R9 285 was rebranded as the 380
    The R8 290 series was rebranded as the 390 series
    The RX 470 is GCN 1.3 or GCN4. which is a die shrunk 380X but wither new hardware features and changes (think it has fewer aces but has the primitive discard acceleration).

    Oh, maybe I've misread your post, you're talking about new products? Well my examples are the rebrands anyway.
     

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