New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by OnnA, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. itpro

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    Question is, if AMD FSR can be improved in any way. At least Nvidia knew they can improve due to ML curve.

    IF we should wait for a new technique at distant future due to limitations, Nvidia will be thousand steps ahead.
     
  2. Ryu5uzaku

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    It does easily. But as NvidiaFreak650 said they can add that later on. Also they need to bring something to consoles at this point too. The reconstruction is ok at best with max quality while you gain performance. As long as there ain't horrible artifacts in the image it's fine. But for example for consoles using AI would suck.
     
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    Idk why are nvidia users even mentioned in the presentation. Everything being open source could be good or bad for them. Hopefully it takes off like sam and freesync.
     

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    Bringing Vulkan Raytracing to older AMD hardware (Vega and below) (froggi.es)
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    One of the AMD's best?
     
  7. OnnA

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    Sapphire Radeon RX 6900 XT with liquid cooling looks a lot like the unreleased RX 6900 XTX
    A graphics card that never to be. AMD reference-looking graphics card by Sapphire does look a lot like the leaked RX 6900 XTX.

    Looks like we finally have the source of all the sudden RX 6900 XTX leaks.
    The graphics card was just recently spotted in a Chinese pre-built system and now it has been listed as a retail product in Brazil. It does not feature any Sapphire logos whatsoever, which does certainly raise the question of whether this is actually an AMD reference design. It certainly looks this way.

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    Sapphire Radeon RX 6900 XT LC

    AMD has made no announcements at Computex about its new Radeon RX 6900 XT model with liquid cooling. There is still a chance we might get to learn more about this mysterious SKU during an already announced event dedicated to FidelityFX Super Resolution.

    The fact is that AMD released a new Navi 21 XTXH GPU with increased power limits for some ultra-high-end AIB models. It was an easy way to challenge NVIDIA RTX 3090 in some benchmarks. Unfortunately, even the vanilla XT variant is already hard to find, not to mention the ridiculous price these cards go for these days.
    So launching a new even pricier model was certainly not something we expected from AMD, but neither did we expect RTX 3080 Ti when nearly all RTX 30 cards are hard to find at a reasonable price. So maybe both manufacturers no longer care and they just want to release what they had planned for months.

    The Sapphire RX 6900 XT LC (21308-02-10G) is currently listed in Brazilian stores with an estimated shipping date of June 30th. The current price definitely raises an eyebrow. The card is listed at 23,530 Brazilian Reals, which is around 4,660 USD.
    The retailer’s specs also list 18 Gbps memory speed, which is not something we expected to see on a GDDR6 graphics card, it would rather be a domain of GDDR6X models but is definitely doable with non-X memory technology should AMD find a supplier of such chips. However, we think this might be a typo, as RX 6900 XT comes with 16 Gbps memory so this model should be no exception.

    -> https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-radeon-rx-6900-xt-lc-listed-is-this-the-unreleased-rx-6900-xtx

    :p Now we're talkin'
    -> Prezi You'll Need this one ;)
     
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    Small rad for a modern flagship card. Not all that beliavable. Only two 8 pin power in ?
     
  9. OnnA

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    SK Hynix Says Its HBM3 Memory Will Achieve Up To 665 GB/s Bandwidth, Double The Capacity & Offer New Thermal Innovations

    On its product page, SK Hynix has now listed down a comparison chart comparing its current-gen HBM2E memory to the next-generation HBM3 memory.
    As per the DRAM manufacturer, the HBM3 memory is expected to achieve 5.2 Gbps I/O speeds which is a 44% improvement over the existing HBM2E memory.
    This would lead to increased memory bandwidth too and SK Hynix has provided figures on that front too.

    SK Hynix leads the HBM market with ambitions for even faster HBM solutions: Our HBM3, under development, will be capable of processing more than 665GB of data per second at 5.2Gbps in I/O speed. via

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    According to SK Hynix, the HBM3 memory will achieve up to 665 GB/s of raw bandwidth while the HBM2E memory peaks out at 460 Gbps.
    This is also a 44% improvement over the existing DRAM. In addition to that, SK Hynix would also refine its innovations first introduced on HBM2E such as the enhanced heat dissipation technology for HBM3.
    The technology provides up to 36% better heat dissipation on HBM2E memory for -14C lower temperatures. We can expect HBM3 to offer even better results.

    Moving on, in terms of capacity, we are expecting the first generation of HBM3 memory to be very similar to HBM2E which is made up of 16Gb DRAM Dies for a total of 16 GB (8-hi stack).
    But we can expect increased memory densities with HBM3 once the specifications are finalized by JEDEC. For products, we can expect a range of them coming next years such as
    AMD's Instinct Accelerators that will be based on next-gen CDNA architecture, NVIDIA's Hopper GPUs, and Intel's future HPC accelerators based on their next-gen Xe-HPC architecture.
     
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    Sapphire Radeon RX 6900 XT LC tested

    Without a doubt, the graphics card that was shown in the video review does look like a reference model. In fact, the card does not even have a Sapphire sticker anywhere, but it is covered by AMD and Radeon logos.
    This might confirm that the card is indeed AMD in-house design and might become available from other AICs in the future.

    This model is clocked at 2250 MHz (Game) and 2435 MHz (boost), which puts it slightly under all these XTXH models mentioned above.
    According to the specifications posted on Bilbilibi, this model does in fact, have a memory clock sped increased to 18.48 Gbps. Unlike most XTXH cards which feature a triple-8pin power connector, this version is only powered by two.

    -> https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphir...deon-rx-6900-xt-lc-with-liquid-cooilng-tested
     
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  16. OnnA

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    So, now many games are Playable with Vega at 1440p thx to this new feature, GJ ATI/AMD :D
    IMhO it's advanced Pixel doubling or similar technique... then give some Sharpness (at +30-50% and it's fine).

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    A bit disappointing that it doesn't even match TAA upsampling.

     
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  18. PrEzi

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    Disagree.
    https://www.techpowerup.com/review/...olution-quality-performance-benchmark/10.html

    "
    And now, the big question—does it work? From a performance standpoint, it most certainly does! Even the "Ultra Quality" preset, which offers the highest image quality, gives you a neat 25-40% increase in frame rates, which will come in very handy when playing on a 4K display with 1440p-capable hardware. While the games we tested today aren't the most demanding, the numbers speak for themselves. A Radeon RX Vega 64 that was a stuttery mess at 4K is now quite playable, especially if you're willing to sacrifice some quality. This also breathes new life into cards like the Radeon RX 580 that can now achieve good framerates at 1440p. This is a big deal for someone still on such older-generation hardware, who probably wanted to upgrade in 2020-21, but was put off by high GPU prices. As you switch between the Balanced, Performance and Quality modes, you more than double your frame rates, which only adds to your freedom.

    From a quality standpoint, I have to say I'm very positively surprised by the FSR "Ultra Quality" results. The graphics look almost as good as native. In some cases they even look better than native rendering. What makes the difference is that FSR adds a sharpening pass that helps with texture detail in some games. Unlike Fidelity FX CAS, which is quite aggressive and oversharpens fairly often, the sharpening of FSR is very subtle and almost perfect—and I'm not a fan of post-processing effects. I couldn't spot any ringing artifacts or similar problems.

    The more performance-oriented modes of FSR are definitely not for those who want the best quality—the loss in rendering resolution becomes very apparent, very quickly, especially in areas with strong colors and high contrast. Still, I'm not sure if we should completely dismiss these modes as "unusable." For example, if you own an older graphics card and a 4K display, the output of "FSR Performance" will look MUCH better than simply rendering at 1080p and letting the monitor or GPU upscale the output to your monitor's native 4K—I tested it. FSR Performance, which renders at 1920x1080, even looks better than 1440p upscaled to 4K.
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    Look at more non-biased, honest reviews. DF is definitely all but not biased.
     
  19. Exodite

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    I haven't watched DFs take but I admit that's intentional, as they tend to get weird when anything challenge team green.

    More to the point though, compared to any of the FSR reviews I did watch DF seems to be the outlier.

    *shrug* I'm glad it's alright I guess, though personally I always hoped for DLSS to offer an MSAA/SSAA alternative for deferred rendering rather than more performance so FSR doesn't really hold more than academic interest.
     

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