New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's

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  1. PrEzi

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    Infinity cache 10000000% confirmed by a patent. Plus "RDLSS" also confirmed.... kinda what I've said a few pages back :D
    And here a little bit of RGT (first I kinda disliked on how the guy looks and speaks but you get accustomed to it.... eventually plus he has also some good sources ;) ) :
     
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    He was saying only a couple of weeks ago, big Navi will only rival the 2080Ti. Other than the patents, i'd take what he says with a grain of salt.
     
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    These guys are a bit all over the place. I think NV will be bleeding this generation.
     
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    NVIDIA jebaited AMD.
    - Big Navi perf target was GA104.
    - NVIDIA upgraded 3080 to GA102
    - AMD now targets 3070
    - NVIDIA announced Ampere at lower than expected price
    - AMD announced Oct 28 event
    - NVIDIA postponed the launch to Oct 29

    Just what we gathered this week from AIBs

    -> https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1313609282940801035?s=20

    This will be very sad if true :confused:
     
  7. OnnA

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    Wave of estimates for Navi21

    Maby it is it?
    If so, then everyone who bought 3080 is in tough spot.

    Google translator:
    energy efficiency ratio of 196.8%*221w/340w/84.7%=1.51 is increased by 50%. According to 350w tdp, the performance is not much worse, but it is a bit difficult to maintain the IPC improvement rhythm of the N card. rdna1 finally catches up with the picture.

    Spirit, let’s use the frequency this time. The flagship 6900XT 256bit 16 GB 340w

    times. The flagship has always been high specifications, low TDP, high energy consumption ratio, 6900, 4608sp should not exceed 300w.

    The big core low memory is 192bit, it fills the gap. Model, just give it a name 6800xt, >4096sp+12GB 270w
    should not be able to play the trick of 5600xt this time, 192bit is very deadly,,,
    there will be another knife on the core, it can not threaten its own 6900, performance and GA103 collision ,
    It is possible to force GA103 out, it is difficult to say that GA103 will not be out, even if it will be out of full specifications, it is unlikely

    that it is not impossible to take GA102. n22 is likely to be part of the xsx gpu version. There are performance advantages, and it is a bit difficult for
    GA103.
    Two models of 6800 6700xt, 3584sp 255w, 3200sp 240w

    n23 40cu+192bit are basically accurate, 195w, target 3060ti

    [​IMG]

    -> https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2264233&mobile=1
     
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    AIBs have delivered trash info countless times already.... hell... they couldn't even deliver correct 3080 Infos a day before the cards launch!
    I expect they could mix up the 6900 with 6800 and 6700 ranges of cards and their performance....
    Let's not forget that AMD was "not overwhelmed" with 3080 performance ---- seem to me that they have expected exactly this or even slightly better than what actually has become of 3080.

    Or I am just straight in denial --- this also might be an option.... :D
     
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    You should read more of the replies, OnnA. You'd see how other insiders already disprove VCD's post and demonstrate how AMD is jebaiting the AIBs because they be leaky.
     
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    Even though i've just bought a card today, my hand were kind of tied after my OLED blew up literally and is being replaced by the latest CX OLED for free. I really hope AMD at the very least is competitive with the 3000 series. If they end up faster, then that's even better.
     
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    If that is the target AMD would've dropped the ball so hard it would pierce the earth.

    Look Xbox Series X seems to be around 2080ti if not better. That is clocked at solid 1825mhz. IF amd does release 80cu part with 2200mhz clocks or even 2000mhz clocks that should easily surpass GA104 and be around 102 territory. All things considered. It might be reach 3090 in certain games.
     
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    So we have 3 possibilities:

    1. Big Navi is Big and faster than 3090 by a good margin ~15%
    Undercuts nV with aggresive 649€ pricing to gain 50% of market share in 6 months period (like in HD5xxx times).
    2. Is on Par with 3080 but cheaper.
    3. ATI target is mainstream so it's ~ 3070

    Pick One :p

    I want 1 !
     
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    It's either 1 or 2. Three would be like giving up the graphics space.
     
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    I would add an option 1a to this.
    1a --- Big Navi is slightly faster than 3080 (even on par with 3090 sometimes) --- in most games where RTX is not used.... With RDLSS vs DLSS it is faster.
    And is slightly slower than 3080 in games which utilize RTX (5-10%) but still faster by 20-30% vs 2080Ti, consuming less power than 3080 (I would say --- somewhere around "real" 280-300 W max).
    As a bonus --->
    kinda 1a+b ---- RDLSS implementation offers a nice boost but has slightly worse quality than NV DLSS (1.0? 2.0? not sure, but it is more universal as doesn't require TXAA or ingame implementation).

    I am voting for 1a and b :D;)
     
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    It's also incredibly hard to believe.

    Let's review;

    The RTX 2080TI is ~35% faster than the 5700XT.
    The RTX 3070 is, according to Nvidia, roughly on par with the 2080Ti. Assuming this holds up about as well as the RTX 3080 being twice as fast as the 2080, ie. the best case scenario, we can expect perhaps 25-40% performance over the 5700XT depending on title and resolution.
    We know that RDNA2 clocks significantly higher than Navi due to the new consoles, at least 2.23 GHz is possible and rumors indicate up to 2.5 GHz for some models.
    We can expect some IPC increase, let's assume on the low end just to be conservative.
    AMD has touted a 50% perf/watt increase over Navi.
    The 5700XT is a tiny, 251 mm2, chip.

    If all AMD was content to produce was a 5700XT that clocked 20-25% higher that alone would be enough to get most of the way to a RTX 3070.

    Add IPC increases and, presumably, more CUs and it would be all but impossible not to beat it by significant margins.

    If AMD were to not compete beyond the RTX 3070 the most likely scenario is that they never wanted to, but I find that very unlikely - though not quite as unlikely as the number of things that would have to go wrong to not beat the RTX 3070.
     

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    Any change of a 200€+/- -Navi card this year?
    Need a new card with urgent but paying that for a 5500XT now i think its a mistake.
     
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    I find it hard to believe after all the work AMD has done on both new consoles that they would have a weak introduction for gpus. Naturally, because Nvidia loves gimmicks, AMD will have weaker performance when DLSS is enabled, but when its off, I think AMD will hold their own. I'm hoping for performance close to a 3080. Even if it's a little weaker. Somewhere between a 3070 and 3080 would be fine for me. For decent price. I mean...I hope they have something that crushes the 3090, but trying to stay realistic. I've just gotten so soured by the way Nvidia has handled their 3xxx situation that I will spitefully buy AMD if I do upgrade. Haven't owned one since they were still ATI.
     
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    @SerotoNiN keep your fate up mate.
    AMD WILL deliver this time. I am 99% sure that you will be happy. Let's start with the jawdropping ZEN3 tomorrow and then followed by a roundhouse kick in Jensen's balls 20 days later :D
     
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    Hewh, now you know that AMD did indeed Jebaited AIBs and NV alltogether >
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    NAVI 21 XTX - AMD's biggest secret, AIBs were not officially told about it yet, performance is unknown. Might launch as a reference-only model first. It has more CUs than Navi 21 XT.
    "

    https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1314099938255605761?s=20
     

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