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New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by OnnA, Jul 9, 2016.

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  1. Rich_Guy

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    AMD Radeon Polaris 30 GPU Based On 12nm FinFET Node Gearing Up For Launch

    The folks over at Chiphell forums are at it again – another new rumor about an upcoming graphics card and AMD Radeon this time.
    According to the source, the company is launching the 12nm version of Polaris (dubbed Polaris 30 if the general naming conventions are followed).
    This should just be a more power efficient of the Polaris chip and is slated to launch sometime next week. Needless to say, because of the fact we haven’t heard anything else on this so far (apart from roadmap leaks) its best to take this with a grain of salt and has been tagged as a rumor.

    AMD’s Polaris 30 GPU will be refreshed on the 12nm FinFET process with up to 15% expected performance increase

    While the source in question is Chiphell, most of what they are saying does fit in with the general narrative of AMD and what we have previously heard – which is why it warranted a post.
    AMD has also hinted that they will be releasing a product every quarter and since Navi is not going to be landing this quarter, this seems to be the perfect pit stop for AMD to take a breather at. The Polaris 30 GPU is going to be a refresh of the Polaris 20 part which was launched in 2017.

    AMD Polaris 30 will be based on the 12nm FinFET process and you can expect a 10-15% performance increase from the process upgrade and slightly higher clocks.
    It’s worth keeping in mind that 12nm FinFET is essentially just an enhanced version of 16nm FF and not an entirely new node in itself (that would be 7nm). AMD will not be rolling out its 7nm Vega 20 GPU (which won’t be coming to the gaming market anyways) until the 12nm refresh lineup is launched so it fits in there as well.

    According to the source, the GPU lineup could be launched as soon as next month by AMD. I doubt we will see a lot of fanfare about it and it is even possible that AMD quietly refreshes the RX 500 series on the OEM side.
    It is unclear what the nomenclature would be of such a series – RX 600 seems to be the next logical step but it could easily be something else entirely and at this point, we are deep in speculation territory so I will leave it at that.

    As for why this series wasn’t on AMD’s roadmap – there is a very easy explanation for that. Polaris 20 lineup wasn’t on the roadmap either – till it was suddenly refreshed in 2017.
    So the fact that the Polaris 30 GPU family is not present on AMD’s roadmap doesn’t really take any credibility away from this rumor considering the company’s past actions.
    Polaris 30 would allow the company to tighten its foothold in the budget segment as well as the mobility side with more power efficient (and cheaper!) GPUs.

    It is sort of ironic how AMD’s philosophy is the exact opposite of NVIDIA. We fully expect the Polaris 30 lineup to be slightly faster but also slightly cheaper than the already cheaper RX 500 series making it ideal for entrants to PC gaming and/or gamers on a budget that can’t afford to spend an arm and a leg on a PC build.

    UPDATE no.1

    Some publications are pointing towards a 15% performance improvement being achieved on the back of this process change for Polaris - which, if achieved only via a new process implementation, would require clock speed increases that are higher than that.

    AMD has already launched their revised Polaris 20 RX 500 series, which built upon their RX 400 series (and Polaris 10) by upping the clocks as well.
    A smaller node would likely be associated with higher yields and decreased costs per finished chip, which would allow AMD to further reduce pricing/stabilize pricing while introducing a new product generation to tide users over until Navi is finally ready.

    Adding to all of this (and the included NaCl), a post via Phoronix has been posted which speaks of a new Polaris Device ID (0x6FDF) that's being added to the latest AMDGPU Linux kernel patch.
    The new device ID is being added under the "POLARIS 10" family, which includes the Polaris 20 revision.
    We'll see how this pans out, but if AMD are to in fact revise their Polaris architecture for the 12 nm node, some architectural changes likely wouldn't go wrong to extract maximum value out of that investment.



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    I told You Guys :D (nACE RT)





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    The video was released in 2016. There is some new technology for in game ray tracing that will be used based on this?
     
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    Not anounced yet, maby they will give us a some new info when Polaris RX680 Hit the market.
    Maby, it will be something like this: DXR RT Capable GPU for 199€ ;)*

    *(Yes for everyone, so adoption will be great, shame if RT will bite the dust because it has 1000€ Price tag :eek::confused:)
     
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    I guess it would not be usable for gaming though on RX680, maybe on Vega which is a lot more powerful in computing part.
     
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    Makes me wonder if womething like a polaris 30 would use gddr5x , the higher memory speed would reduce dependance on higher core frequencies.
     
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    AMD Next Generation Arcturus GPU To Succeed Navi GPU – New Radeon Family Naming Scheme Also To Be Introduced After Navi

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    It looks like an AMD employee has revealed the name of AMD’s next-generation GPU which would be known as Arcturus.
    The next-gen GPU was revealed by an AMD employee on Phoronix Forums and aside from the GPU name, he also mentioned that the new lineup of graphics cards would go back to the older naming scheme which we got before Vega.

    AMD Arcturus Next-Gen GPUs In The Works, To Replace Navi Post-2020

    If we go by the current AMD GPU roadmaps, we will see that AMD has products planned out till and beyond 2020.
    The 14nm Vega lineup shipped in 2017 and they are expected to ship their 1st 7nm based Vega 20 products by the end of this year.
    Then in 2019, we will get to see the first Navi products released to the consumer market.

    The roadmap has GPU codenames confirmed till “Navi” and everything beyond that is labeled “Next-Gen”. The only details that are known about this next-gen part till now are that it will utilize the latest 7nm+ process node.
    Well, thanks to AMD themselves, we might have the first graphics architecture codename for this part which is said to be Arcturus.
    The “Arcturus” codename comes from the red giant star which is the brightest in the constellation of Bootes and among the brightest stars that can be seen from space.

    Similar to Vega and Navi, both of which are also some of the brightest stars visible in the night sky,
    the naming scheme takes inspiration from the time since RTG was created and the founding father, Raja Koduri (ex AMD RTG President), put a lot of emphasis on bright stars when they first introduced Polaris.

    So that goes in line with what AMD has been naming their GPUs so far but the other interesting thing to note here is that the same AMD employee also mentions that AMD will be going back to their roots when it comes to the naming convention of the actual products based on the Arcturus GPUs

    With Vega, we saw graphics cards named after the specific GPU configuration such as RX Vega 64/56 and their derivatives that exist on the mobile and APU segment. In the past, the naming scheme was much easier to follow with Tahiti going inside the Radeon 7900 series cards, Hawaii going inside the R9 290 series cards and Fiji going inside the R9 Fury series cards. AMD is going to bring back such naming schemes with Arcturus if the said employee is to be believed.

    We are going back to real codenames where possible (ie where it’s not already too late to change), and trying to keep the old “the name vaguely suggests HW generation so it will be easier to remember in the future” model.
    The first new codename should be Arcturus.


    via Phoronix Forums

    Overall, it’s great to hear some news from the AMD graphics side too which has been silent for several months. We would love to hear some official words on the next-gen graphics roadmap and respective products in the coming months.
     
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    What a coincidence that this name has "Arc" and "Tur" in it.
    I wonder if Regulus will follow.
     

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    Arcturus, also designated Alpha Boötis, is the brightest star in the constellation of Boötes, the fourth-brightest in the night sky, and the brightest in the northern celestial hemisphere.

    Ancient Greek Ἀρκτοῦρος (Arktouros) and means "Guardian of the Bear".

    -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcturus
     
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