Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by OnnA, Jul 9, 2016.
ah ok thanks for the clarification
GCN was not lucky bet. They had VLIW4 and GCN on table and VLIW4 has been picked. Can you imagine difference if they did invest directly into GCN?
Hm, interesting I didn't know that detail. So they could fare much better and have more time with GCN in hands if they stopped pushing VLIW. But anyhow one way or another they would get into a point GCN gets EOL. I hope they have ready something great like this again.
No need to drop gcn, it's as advanced as it can be, they started with gcn just in the right time.
Now they can focus on its power efficiency more and add extra ROPs and more cores, its mostly this holding its raw power back. If Vega64 had 96 ROPs it would crush even titanV, but power and thermals didn't allow it.
I've get some info that Fiji and Vega had exactly same limitation GCN had from its incemption: 4096SP/256TMU/64ROPs. I can't remember where it came from, but I think it was one of AMD tech guys.
First was VLIW and good 5xxx/6xxx line (but it was not advanced enough, PC and NextGen consoles in mind)
Then was GCN with CU (GPU+Compute Units for more flexible & Power efficient Programing)
Now we have VEGA with NCU (Next Gen Compute Units, and this one along with ZEN will be in PS5/XboX X2)
Another Next-Gen should be NAVI (but we need for oficial statement what it will bring, AFIAK it will be Multi Stacked GPUs with HBM Tech)
Yes, we need good developers, with Vision & Passion for Eye Candy/Tech (and not only $$$)
Yes Game will sell even better.
As for ATI/AMD Vision for PC Gaming, IMO they are the Real Leaders (Just Ask Console Developers, and PC DX12/VLK ones for e.g. Bethesda, Square EniX & EA)
Their Close to the Metal Tech (DX12/VLK) is really something.
Thanks GoD for Mantle.
(When i had 280X long time ago, Mantle shows me Ultra Gaming in BF4 on Phenom 2 CPU lol, I just know that this is working 300% Better than Old API Tech, for many of my Friends this was the way to Play BF MP)
I just even can't comprehend what can be achieved with my Vega when used right
Like a CGI Movie?
Spoiler: Look what can do an old GCN w.Jaguar only CPU
Also known as: if a grandma had a penis, she would be a grandpa
Lol something like that.. xD
What's the reason for the absence of new GPU drivers? Will the next driver be a big one with a lot of game updates and profiles or what's taking so long?
AMD RTG team probably needs vacation. Summer time, big time! It is not greedy NVidia. Do not forget fine wine, needs to age properly.
Latest Win10 Insider slow, really messed up my rig.
I should've already DDUed and reinstalled, but I've been waiting for a new, maybe more compatible driver.
66A7:00/Radeon Pro Vega 20 in AotS bench (Other User Result)
And Radeon Vega Mobile is still alive?
Martin Ashton has joined AMD Radeon
Back in January AMD started to reforge their Radeon Technologies Group (RTG) after the departure of Raja Koduri, placing the division under Mike Rayfield as a senior vice president of AMD and general manager of the RTG.
During this time, the former ATI veteran David Wang was also hired as senior vice president of engineering.
We have confirmed that Martin Ashton has joined AMD as Corporate Vice President, reportedly taking a role within Radeon. Martin Ashton was Imagination Technologies' Executive Vice President of Engineering for 26 years,
leaving in late 2016 to work with Intel on their graphics technologies. With experience at both Intel and Imagination Technologies, Ashton is an ideal candidate for a position within Radeon, especially given his experience developing the PowerVR graphics architecture.
At AMD, Ashton will work under David Wang to develop Radeon's graphics roadmap and to create a new range of competitive products. Chip development takes a lot of time, so don't expect Ashton's addition to AMD to have consequences for Radeon in the near future.
AMD's Radeon Technologies Group has gone through a major transition over the past year, regrouping under new leadership to, hopefully, create highly competitive graphics products in the future.
Zen side of AMD
Chinese Company Begins Making x86 Processors Based on AMD "Zen" Architecture
Chinese chipmaker Hygon began mass-producing its first x86 processors codenamed "Dhyana" based on AMD's "Zen" micro-architecture. The processor is the fruition of a deal AMD entered with a Chinese state-owned company back in mid-2016.
As part of this deal, a company called Haiguang Microelectronics Company (HMC), in which AMD has a 51 percent stake, would license the "Zen" architecture to another company called Hygon (Chengdu Haiguang Integrated Circuit Design Co.), in which AMD owns a 30 percent stake. Hygon would then design "Dhyana," and a third entity (likely TSMC or some other Chinese foundry), would contract-manufacture the chip.
Such legal gymnastics is necessary to ensure AMD makes good on the $293 million it will take from the Chinese firms to license "Zen," while not breaching the x86 architecture cross-licensing agreement it signed with Intel, the core x86 IP owner.
Chinese firms are going through all this trouble to build "Dhyana" instead of simply placing a large order of EPYC processors not just because they want more control over the supply and pricing of these chips.
ASRock GPU Roadmap Reveals Radeon RX Vega and Radeon RX 500 Series Till Q1 2019
Next-Gen Launch in Q2 Possible
The latest ASRock GPU roadmap has just been displayed which showcases that the current Radeon RX series graphics cards won’t be replaced with next-gen parts till Q1 2019. According to the reveal (Videocardz via XFastest),
it looks like Radeon RX 500 series and Radeon RX Vega series is here to stay for a while but let’s take a deeper look at what this and previous GPU roadmaps have meant.
ASRock Reveals Radeon RX GPU Roadmap Up Till Q1 2019 – No New Next-Gen Parts But Is That Really The Case?
ASRock’s GPU roadmap lists their entire product lineup which includes graphics cards from the AMD Radeon RX Vega and AMD Radeon RX 500 series families. ASRock,
a recent entrant to the graphics market, has been manufacturing custom and reference designs based around AMD’s Polaris and Vega GPUs.
Their first graphics cards, the Phantom Gaming RX 500 series started to enter retail market in April 2018 and was recently expanded to the Radeon RX Vega series too.
The current ASRock Radeon RX 500 series comes in four gaming flavors and two mining flavors.
The Radeon RX 500 series from ASRock is based around their Phantom Gaming designs which include “X” series for High-End, “D” series for Dual-Fan, “OC” for overclocking and “MK2” for the Mark 2 second generation cards.
Their mining series include “M1” single-fan and “M2” dual-fan series.
The ASRock Phantom Gaming X Radeon RX Vega cards are based on the reference design and not much to be seen there as demand is driving sales for these cards, custom models or not.
The ASRock MK2 variants are expected to hit the market soon and will be a slightly more refined version of the current RX 500 series cards with better heatsinks and cooling solutions from what was seen at Computex.
Now back to the roadmap, it lists these cards up till Q1 2019 which may hint that there are no new cards coming from AMD up till late Q1 2019 or even Q2 around the mid of 2019. But there’s a very different perspective on this roadmap.
We have seen roadmaps that didn’t mention any new cards and only current cards up till a certain date but then, all of a sudden, there was a new launch that happened in between the time frame of that roadmap.
Companies usually showcase roadmaps to the public which only show current products. They also keep internal roadmaps which show an expected timeframe of when the next-gen or updates to the product line would launch.
If ASRock was to show a next-gen product in their roadmap which may launch before Q1 2019, they would get in trouble with AMD as it would be a breach in NDA with AMD as the parent company hasn’t yet revealed a next-gen part, nor mentioned an exact launch date.
AMD has only mentioned that they are bringing 7nm Radeon RX to gamers at their Computex 2018 press conference, aside from that, there’s nothing officially told.
As for the Radeon GPU side, there have been rumors about a Polaris 30 update in fall of 2018 followed by mid-range Navi 7nm cards sometime in 2019.
Interesting as I thought AMD was releasing a refreshed Polaris line this year.
No need of new gen until Cyberpunk
Yup. Thats what the MK2 is in the picture.
Not 7nm though, probably 12nm.
Also today i was checking some major e-tailer/retailer in EU about % of sold Free-Sync vs G-sync monitors:
>2200 FreeSync sold Vs ~205 G-Sync ones
Then we have AMD/ATI states that more than 400mln users have Radeon Gaming in House
Hmm, all this is so strange IMO
But back to the topic, it's good that we have Intel with Us finally.
Openness is #Better
Also Beteshda shows us that VLK Game can Look & Run extremely GooD.
I like DX12 as well -> Forzas we look at You
in RSAE 18.7.1 inf File.
66A3/66A7 = Vega 20 (Like 56 or 64?). And SUBSYS 106B = APPLE.
It means that Radeon Pro Vega 20/AMD 66A7 is probably New Mac Pro dGPU?
> @Hilbert Hagedoorn
Is this a News?