New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's Part 2

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  1. OnnA

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    AMD Hosting Private Event For Upcoming Radeon Drivers Update: Adrenaline, 2019 Edition

    A fresh leak from Videocardz has just surfaced revealing the existence of an embargo and an exclusive event for an upcoming AMD drivers update.
    AMD has historically lead the industry in quality of their drivers (including the GUI) and the Crimson revisions were something to behold. If the secretive nature of this new update is any indication, it appears that the company is all set to do it once again with an upcoming drivers update.

    AMD Radeon’s Adrenaline 2019 Edition being shown off in an exclusive press event, new features leaked

    The new version of AMD’s drivers will be called Adrenaline, 2019 Edition and will have quite a large number of brand new features.
    According to Videocardz, the new features will include a voice control system, dubbed “Hey Radeon!”, rather like what Google, Siri, and Alexa offer and will allow the user to ask the drivers to do things like taking screenshots or show the FPS overlay while inside a game.
    Currently, the voice commands can only be issued in English or Chinese. This feature utilizes Adrenaline 2019 and AMD Link update.

    Secondly, and perhaps more excitingly, AMD is going to be answering the automatic overclocking present on modern NVIDIA cards with one-click overclocking capability that actually tweaks the memory as well!
    Overclocking support has been great on NVIDIA cards ever since Pascal (in which the vast majority of cards usually run way above what the maximum turbo boost is advertised as ) and it will be great to have a competing feature in Radeon cards.

    What’s more, the company is actually one-upping NV over here and including undervolting support as well.
    Some Radeon cards like Vega have known to be overvolted for stability (and ease of QA) purposes and many chips can actually run at the stated power levels just as happily on lower voltages.
    This undervolting support will allow users to minimize the power draw from their Radeon card (especially useful if you are running a mining operation – not that they are very profitable right now).

    Lastly, Streaming to VR Headsets will also be present for AMD cards, although this is something that has multiple software and hardware competitors only and it remains to be seen whether a dedicated hardware solution for
    streaming VR will be the eventual winner or native support for streaming the same (which will naturally be on a lower bitrate than dedicated hardware such as wireless HDMI).
    The company has a great history of leading driver updates (I mention Crimson once again) and its great to see AMD pushing the bar for drivers higher once again.

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    First things first. The new driver is may be still called Adrenalin, 2019 Edition, despite the fact that it will launch this year, or so I’m told.
    The driver will bring a handful of enhancements and features, but I will only mention a few.

    Wattman
    The driver features new overclocking capabilities, such as one-click overclocking (including the memory – so I’ve heard). This obviously is a direct response to NVIDIA’s Turing OC Scanner, but we have no details on how the AMD tool will work exactly.

    Our sources claim that new Adrenalin will also support undervolting, yes you heard that right, fully automatic undervolting. This was quite a topic at Vega launch, so I’m looking forward to how efficient this tool will be.
    Last but not least, I have also heard about fan curvature modifications in new Wattman.

    Hey Radeon!
    Have you ever wanted to talk to your graphics card? Well, guess what, AMD will give you this opportunity with Adrenalin 2019 and AMD Link update. You will be able to issue simple commands, but only in English and Chinese. I don’t have a list of all commands yet, but I heard you can ask the software to display FPS for you, should you need it, or take a screenshot (you get the idea).

    Streaming to VR Headsets
    The last feature which I found interesting is direct streaming to standalone VR headsets. Think of Steam Link, only for VR headset. I’ve heard the technology is really smooth and lag is hardly noticeable.

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    [​IMG]

    -> https://videocardz.com/79193/amd-preparing-radeon-software-adreanlin-2019-edition
     
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    Nothing about performance gains? :(
     
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    Also no mention of RT over GCN.
     

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    I think they will let us know when it is closer to the time. It will happen, it's just a matter of time.
     
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    The RT bench of 3dMark is due for release in January, so there should be support for it around that time.
     
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    AMD Pledges to Take On NVIDIA’s High-End Turing With 7nm Radeon GPUs in 2019

    We’re nearing the end of what has been quite the wild year for graphics.
    Initially plagued by an exceedingly frustrating inflation of GPU prices caused by the crypto bubble which had only tapered off to end on an equally frustrating note of a very expensive NVIDIA RTX Turing product lineup.

    Well, the crypto bubble has burst, the graphics channel is oversaturated with unsold GPU inventory and we’re on the cusp of an entirely new generation of graphics products based on TSMC’s leading edge 7nm FinFET process.
    Suffice to say, 2019 is shaping up to be the polar opposite of what 2018 has been for the discrete graphics market.

    With 7nm At Hand, AMD is Getting Ready to Tango With NVIDIA’s Turing

    At least that’s what CEO Dr. Lisa Su wants us to believe.
    Take a listen to what she had to say last week when asked about how the company plans to compete with NVIDIA’s new ray tracing focused Turing graphics architecture.

    AMD CEO Lisa Su – Nov 27, 2018 – 22nd Annual Credit Suisse Technology, Media & Telecom Conference
    “We believe, we will be very competitive overall and that includes the high-end of the GPU market. Obviously there are new products out there from our competition. We will have our set of new products as well and we will be right there in the mix”
    “As it relates to ray tracing in particular I think it’s an important technology, but as with all important technologies it takes time to really have the ecosystem adopt [it].
    And we’re working very closely with the ecosystem on both hardware and software solutions and expect that ray tracing will be an important element especially as it gets more into the mainstream, frankly, of the market.”


    – Transcripted by Wccftech.com

    This builds on Dr. Su’s comments at an interview with Barron’s a month prior where she asserted that AMD will be “competitive in high-end graphics,”
    and that AMD is “making high-performing quality products and building a solid long-term foundation.”

    And TSMC’s 7nm process is key to all of it.

    AMD CEO Lisa Su – Q3 2018 Earnings Call

    “We see significant opportunities to build on this momentum as we transition to our next generations of high performance products and launch the industry’s first 7-nanometer x86 CPUs and discrete GPUs over the coming quarters.”

    It’s not yer clear how exactly the company plans to compete with NVIDIA’s high-end Turing graphics cards.
    Especially after all the chatter we’ve been consistently hearing about AMD’s 7nm Navi being a mainstream focused product with GTX 1080 class performance.

    AMD Wants to Bring Back the Spirit of its ATi Heydays

    The company might in fact be planning to debut its chiplet strategy on the GPU side, especially after it has proven to be so incredibly successful on the CPU side in the form of first generation EPYC,
    Threadripper and second generation EPYC.

    That, combined with a fresh and immensely enthusiastic general manager at the helm in David Wang means AMD is not ready to throw-in the towel yet. Speaking with pcgamesn.com
    Wang talked about the olden ATi & NVIDIA days where one would leapfrog the other every other year and how he plans to bring that competitive spirit back.

    “That’s how you make this business so exciting, so interesting,” he said. “That’s how you make gamers so excited about new hardware every year. I think somehow we kind of lost that momentum.
    But what I’m trying to say is we are determined to go back to that cadence, to make this business more fun.”


    We certainly hope that David Wang is prepared to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. Not just for the sake of Radeon fans but for the sake of the entire GPU market.
    A strong and competitive Radeon product lineup means cheaper NVIDIA products for GeForce fans to enjoy as well.
     
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    Absolutely, bring it on AMD. We need strong competition. If they can do to Nvidia what they have done to Intel, it will be good news for everyone.
     
  9. OnnA

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    Also we need to remember that Maxwell/Pascal was a pinacle of nV HW :D (Very successful GPUs after all)
    Intel had it with Core uArch -> AMD had only Buldozer ;)

    Now AMD have ZEN uArch (Very good CPUs & it will be only better in time)
    But ATI have Vega (IMO it's also very good, sophisticated piece of GPU with HBM2)

    As for CPUs Intel was clear winner.
    ATI have Good (not best of the best) GPU for 1440p w/FreeSync -> here nV is not clear winner IMO (Price Vs Features in mind)

    If RTX 2080 was priced at 499-599€ and G-sync 1440p 144Hz at 499€ -> Then ATI will be not so good ;) but not fall behind as it was with Core Vs Buldozer.
     
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    Navi 12 RX 3080

    RX 3080 8GB GDDR6 Navi 12 150tW at $249.98
    perf: like Vega 64 +10% up to 15% more.

    Navi 12 RX 3070

    RX 3070 8GB GDDR6 Navi 12 120tW at $199.98
    perf: like Vega 56

    Navi 12 RX 3060

    RX 3060 4GB GDDR6 Navi 12 75tW (no PCIe pin) at $129.98
    perf: like RX580

     
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    RX 3080 would do me nicely. That price is insanely good.
     
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    It sounds too good to be true, but at least that way @OnnA will keep me as a customer and I would be very happy to purchase an RX 3080 (8GB) graphics card.
     
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    It's easy to be skeptical due to the incredibly low mobility on the GPU market the last few years but as the video points out (it's worth watching in full, AdoredTV usually is) it represents ~15% more performance and ~15% lower power than a GTX 1080 on a significantly smaller node. It's hardly earthshattering numbers, they just seem that way because we've had zero motion in the midrange for the last 3 years!
     
  14. OnnA

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    I will jump into Big Navi ~2020y :D
    And Yes TBF it's not big jump initially, drivers mature in 1Yas period then we can easily add another 5-12% Uplift.
    So it will be as good as Vega XTX at 1725MHz/1125HBM2 w/only 150-175tW

    7nm is a good node (and it will be with us for some time IMO 3-7 Years)
    Big 'Navi' Arcturus* will be in 7nm refined node, perf. at min. 2xVega XTX 1750MHz


    * Arcturus, also designated Alpha Boötis, is the brightest star in the constellation of Boötes
    [​IMG]
     
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    Just watched Adored video, and have to say if this is all true (and it certainly seems so) AMD is The Next Big Thing.

    It really does seem my 2019 rig will be full red team.
     
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    ^^ We all shall see if AMD/ATI is the same as it was in the Past.
    We will know when we see those prices real :D

    Do not elevate it, cuz' we don't want it that way ;)
     
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    What a good troll. nV changed GTX to RTX which is similar to AMD's RX. Now AMD counterstrikes by release of cards numbered way next generation of nV's cards would have.
    RX 3060 ~ RX 3080 :D
    Just one letter difference from RTX 3060 ~ 3080. If that happens, someone will pop a vein.
     
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    How good does that 3700x look if that leak is true. That will be my next CPU for sure. Pair that with a RX3080 and that will be a beastly setup.
     
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    The 3080 should be a Navi 10 model I believe not the Navi 12 model.

    Going from the quote here on the Ryzen 3000 with Zen2 CPU rumors.
    https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-ryzen-3000-leaks.85115/

    Sometimes it's shader core count like Vega 56 and Vega 64 and sometimes it's the product number and lower is higher-end. :D
    To a point, 10 would be one gen and then 20 would be the next gen for example with Polaris 10 and Polaris 20 for example or Vega 10 and Vega 20 right?
    Bah probably mixing these up in some way although I do think the desktop Vegas were Vega 10 and the compute card coming up is Vega 20 as I remember it.

    (EDIT: Well it can be both, product number and shader core count really or the clusters they use so Vega10 with Vega 64 as the product on that process or blargh I'm making it overly complicated again hah.)


    EDIT: Hmm and I suppose we'll see how accurate this is, AMD hasn't really shared anything have they, not yet at least.
     
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    Thank you for all these amazing updates. I really hope AMD surprises us with something big during CES because I am sick and tired of Nvidia ripping people off with their ridiculous prices due to the monopoly they have on high-end gaming. I have been wanting to go back to team red for a while now, so I really hope CES will push me there.
     
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