New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's Part 2

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by WhiteLightning, Sep 28, 2018.

  1. Denial

    Denial Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    12,745
    Likes Received:
    1,987
    GPU:
    EVGA 1080Ti
    Why? Why would I use the CPU which has no dedicated BVH functional units, along with the transfer penalty? It's just straight slower in every way, there is no performance advantage, significantly increases stall chances, increases development complexity.. makes no sense.
     
    AuerX and pharma like this.
  2. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,761
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    GPU:
    Vega 64 XTX LiQuiD
    One way or the other ATI GPU (will likely) have it by Compute Engine aka ACEs.
    It's logical, in the end RT is just an compute.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2020
    The_Amazing_X likes this.
  3. Chastity

    Chastity Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,319
    Likes Received:
    662
    GPU:
    Nitro 5700 XT
    Because with 32 cores you can ray trace like a fiend :D
     
  4. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,761
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    GPU:
    Vega 64 XTX LiQuiD
    New AMD Listings in Korean RRA Certification Point to Impending Graphics Cards Release - Big Navi?

    The Korean RRA has listed AMD graphics cards for certification this month which may well point towards an actual announcement coming from AMD during the next month.
    The company has already confirmed they will be discussing RDNA2 graphics cards come their next Financial Analyst Day, set for March 5th. The new entries, D32310 and D30201, have been listed on February 03 and February 19, respectively.
    This is relevant for a March announcement - even if just a paper one - of the new RDNA2 GPUs because historically, it seems that AMD has registered impending releases with the Korean RRA roughly one month prior to actual product releases.

    As you can see in the listing, AMD registered two graphics cards in June 2019 (D16302 and D18206 - and one month later, in July, the company released Navi-based RX 5700 XT and RX 5700.
    AMD also registered the RX 5600 XT model number, D32501, on December 3, 2019 with a release one month later on January 21, 2020. AMD similarly registered model number D18902 on November 27, 2019 - and AMD released the 5500 XT on December 12, less than a month later.
    There seems to be a pattern here.
    If you're wondering why the model number for these new February registrations is lower than that of the RX 5600 XT (D32501 against the newer, yet lower D32310 and D30201),
    it could have something to do with the fact that AMD decided to carve out the RX 5600 XT SKU later than they knew they'd be releasing Big Navi - as an attempt to curtail NVIDIA in the GTX 1660 Ti and GTX 1660 Super battlefield.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     

  5. Maddness

    Maddness Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,081
    Likes Received:
    297
    GPU:
    Asus Strix RX 480
    I really hope it is. Me wants big Navi.
     
  6. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,761
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    GPU:
    Vega 64 XTX LiQuiD
    ATI wanna disrupt 4k gaming = Good performance at sub 700€ price tag ;)
    In another words, 3080Ti level of performance but very affordable.

    nV will have another behemoth GPU but in 7nm = expensive & max 30% performance uplift compared to 2080Ti
    We can see 460-540mm2 chips to maintain performance.

    We shall know what is what in summer... I do not believe in 70% uplift for Ampere (maby in RT).
    2000€ for 3080Ti will disrupt every wallet :D

    We can see fight in GPU market as well, like Ryzen in CPU space....
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2020
  7. Maddness

    Maddness Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,081
    Likes Received:
    297
    GPU:
    Asus Strix RX 480
    I certainly hope so, I really do.
     
  8. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,761
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    GPU:
    Vega 64 XTX LiQuiD
    Im too :p

    Because of Price hiking, more than anything -> all of Us know how tough is to make Price points stright again.

    ATI/AMD - Makes price points great again :D
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
  9. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    12,804
    Likes Received:
    2,136
    GPU:
    Aorus RX580 XTR 8GB
    580 vs 1060 in 2020

     
    The_Amazing_X, OnnA and SpajdrEX like this.
  10. pharma

    pharma Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,257
    Likes Received:
    205
    GPU:
    Asus Strix GTX 1080

  11. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,761
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    GPU:
    Vega 64 XTX LiQuiD
    Update February 26th, 7:53 -
    The SK Hynix team has contacted us indeed verifying our expectations, as well the technical configuration did not make much sense. The photo is not a real one.:

    Seoul, February 26, 2020

    Regarding recent fake news about SK hynix’s memory specifications and info sheet on AMD’s next generation GPU, on which some media have reported since February 24 (PST), SK hynix hereby announces that the company has not created and distributed such specifications as well as the document asserted to be leaked by an internal source.

    5950XT :p
    Hmm, i like it... but it's FAKE lol

    3x8GB or 4x6GB or 2x12GB ;)

    [​IMG]

    AMD's Big Navi 'Radeon RX' Enthusiast GPU Alleged Specifications
    Coming to the juicy bits, the specifications leaked in a document specifically sourced back to SK Hynix. We can't say how much legitimate this document is but it looks pretty credible at first sight and the specifications do seem plausible. The document mentions the specific GPU config with its codename 'D32310/15'. There's no way to tell whether this is Navi or something else but I will get to that in a bit. The first question that arises is how do we know that this is indeed an AMD GPU?

    If you go by our recent report, an AMD GPU with a similar codename just passed RRA certification this month. Based on the evidence my colleague had collected, it sure does look like a new flagship Navi GPU and one that might end up being faster than all of AMD's Radeon RX gaming graphics cards released to date.

    Surprisingly, the document lists the complete GPU and memory configurations. For the GPU itself, we are looking at 5120 stream processors packed in 80 Compute Units. The GPU consists of a total of 320 TMUs and 96 ROPs. The L2 cache size on the chip also sits at a mammoth 12 MB. That's 2x the cache of NVIDIA's flagship Tesla V100 GPU and Titan RTX. It's also 3x the cache size over AMD's own Radeon RX 5700 XT which is based on the Navi 10 GPU. There are no clock speeds mentioned for this part but the memory configuration is listed.

    In terms of memory, we are looking at 24 GB of high-performance HBM2e. The GPU would feature a 4096-bit bus interface and reportedly up to 2 Terabytes per second worth of bandwidth. The new HBM2e standard was unveiled a while back with both SK Hynix and Samsung accelerating production this year since we are expecting the arrival of new HPC parts from both NVIDIA and AMD. Interestingly, if this leak holds any truth to it, then it looks like AMD is going back to HBM2 design on its flagship gaming graphics cards.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2020
  12. pharma

    pharma Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,257
    Likes Received:
    205
    GPU:
    Asus Strix GTX 1080
  13. pharma

    pharma Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,257
    Likes Received:
    205
    GPU:
    Asus Strix GTX 1080
     
    OnnA likes this.
  14. Maddness

    Maddness Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,081
    Likes Received:
    297
    GPU:
    Asus Strix RX 480
    He doesn't take into account that not all cards can be undervolted and run stable. He really does just ramble sometimes.
     
    Jackalito and Undying like this.
  15. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,761
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    GPU:
    Vega 64 XTX LiQuiD
    Every Enthusiast will UV/OC their GPU (I will do this also for nV ;))
    IMhO they should make clear statement for this feature.
    Some Tech sites do UV tho, but not everone.

    UV is good UV is the way :p
    I have sub 175tW GPU at 70FPS in Division2 -> UV is great, GPU is not surpassing 60deg.
    The truth is out there, ATI is making very good GPUs but have poor PR....

    1. Press should test Default, Auto UV & Manual UV (no sneaks) to give buyers wider perspective.
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2020

  16. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,761
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    GPU:
    Vega 64 XTX LiQuiD
    Xbox Series X Processor is Based Upon Zen 2, RDNA 2 Architectures; 12 TFLOPS GPU Officially Confirmed and More

    Following weeks of rumors and speculation, Microsoft finally confirmed some additional details on the Xbox Series X, which promises to be an incredibly powerful console.

    In a new post shared on the Xbox Official Website, Xbox Head Phil Spencer confirmed that the Xbox Series X processor is based on the Zen 2, which was already known, and RDNA 2 architecture.
    It's also been confirmed that the console will sport a 12 TFLOPS GPU, twice the amount of the Xbox One X and eight times the original Xbox One.


    Features of XBOX Series X:

    • Next Generation Custom Processor: Xbox Series X is our most powerful console ever powered by our custom designed processor leveraging AMD’s latest Zen 2 and RDNA 2 architectures. Delivering four times the processing power of an Xbox One and enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance – twice that of an Xbox One X and more than eight times the original Xbox One. Xbox Series X delivers a true generational leap in processing and graphics power with cutting edge techniques resulting in higher framerates, larger, more sophisticated game worlds, and an immersive experience unlike anything seen in console gaming.
    • Variable Rate Shading (VRS): Our patented form of VRS empowers developers to more efficiently utilize the full power of the Xbox Series X. Rather than spending GPU cycles uniformly to every single pixel on the screen, they can prioritize individual effects on specific game characters or important environmental objects. This technique results in more stable frame rates and higher resolution, with no impact on the final image quality.
    • Hardware-accelerated DirectX Raytracing: You can expect more dynamic and realistic environments powered by hardware-accelerated DirectX Raytracing – a first for console gaming. This means true-to-life lighting, accurate reflections and realistic acoustics in real time as you explore the game world.
    • SSD Storage: With our next-generation SSD, nearly every aspect of playing games is improved. Game worlds are larger, more dynamic and load in a flash and fast travel is just that – fast.

    • Quick Resume: The new Quick Resume feature lets you continue multiple games from a suspended state almost instantly, returning you to where you were and what you were doing, without waiting through long loading screens.

    • Dynamic Latency Input (DLI): We’re optimizing latency in the player-to-console pipeline starting with our Xbox Wireless Controller, which leverages our high bandwidth, proprietary wireless communication protocol when connected to the console. With Dynamic Latency Input (DLI), a new feature which synchronizes input immediately with what is displayed, controls are even more precise and responsive.

    • HDMI 2.1 Innovation: We’ve partnered with the HDMI forum and TV manufacturers to enable the best gaming experience through features such as Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) and Variable Refresh Rate (VRR). ALLM allows Xbox One and Xbox Series X to automatically set the connected display to its lowest latency mode. VRR (FreeSync) synchronizes the display’s refresh rate to the game’s frame rate, maintaining smooth visuals without tearing. Ensuring minimal lag and the most responsive gaming experience.

    • 120 fps Support: With support for up to 120 fps, Xbox Series X allows developers to exceed standard 60 fps output in favor of heightened realism or fast-paced action.

    The Xbox Series X launches later this year worldwide.
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2020
    Maddness and pharma like this.
  17. OnnA

    OnnA Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,761
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    GPU:
    Vega 64 XTX LiQuiD
     
    pharma likes this.
  18. Dekaohtoura

    Dekaohtoura Master Guru

    Messages:
    307
    Likes Received:
    35
    GPU:
    Sapphire V56 Pulse
    He's mentioning this possibility at some point.

    He "suggested" that should a tester/reviewer encounter such a bad uvolter, then the PR people could claim it's a faulty card/driver combo and blahblahblah.
     
  19. Maddness

    Maddness Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,081
    Likes Received:
    297
    GPU:
    Asus Strix RX 480
    That's why his suggestion to undervolt all Navi cards at driver level by 50mv is a bad idea. Better AMD doesn't push the clocks so high, that the voltage needs to be what it is.
     
    Jackalito likes this.
  20. Dekaohtoura

    Dekaohtoura Master Guru

    Messages:
    307
    Likes Received:
    35
    GPU:
    Sapphire V56 Pulse
    This would be the "sane" thing to do.

    Unfortunately, there's always the "impressions" clause, that "forces" the not-so-sane decisions.
     
    Maddness likes this.

Share This Page