New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's Part 2

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by WhiteLightning, Sep 28, 2018.

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    Not so good vs RX580/590.Expected to be better,but is not.

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    Scarlett Dev-kit (Dante)

    SOC: Anubis ( 393mm2 )
    CPU: Custom Zen 2, 8 Cores 16 Threads @ 3.4GHz Built-in with DirectX 12.X, DXR, DirectML and Havok instructions into the chip.
    GPU: Custom Navi 21, Full 56 Compute Units @ 1623MHz
    RT: 1 RTC per Compute Unit
    RAM: 48GB GDDR6 @ 560GB/s
    STORAGE: 1TB+4TB SSD NVMe PCIe 4.0 @ 4GB/s, Flexible Dedicated vRAM starts with 32GB ( Up-to 64GB )
    AUDIO: Custom Tensilica HIFI DSP
    I/O: 2x HDMI 2.1, 4x USB-C ( Thunderbolt ), 2x USB-A, 2x RJ-45, 1x S-PDIF, 1x IR-OUT, Bluetooth 5.0, WIFI Direct, WIFI IEEE 802.11ax
    API: DirectX 12.X, DXR, DirectML
    PSU: 275W

    Scarlett Retail

    SOC: Anubis ( 393mm2 )
    CPU: Custom Zen 2, 8 Cores 16 Threads @ 3.4GHz Built-in with DirectX 12.X, DXR, DirectML and Havok instructions into the chip.
    GPU: Custom Navi 21, 52 Compute Units @ 1623MHz
    RT: 1 RTC per Compute Unit
    RAM: 24GB GDDR6 @ 560GB/s ( Samsung 12x2GB ), 18GB GDDR6 + 2GB GDDR6 Cache + 32GB~64GB SSD vRAM ( Up-to 84GB for Game ) and Dedicated 4GB GDDR6 for OS ( Native 4K60/120FPS Dashboard )
    STORAGE: 1TB SSD NVMe PCIe 4.0 @ 4GB/s, Flexible Dedicated vRAM starts with 32GB ( Up-to 64GB )
    AUDIO: Custom Tensilica HIFI DSP
    I/O: 2x HDMI 2.1, 2x USB-C ( Thunderbolt ), 2x USB-A, 1x RJ-45, 1x S-PDIF, 1x IR-OUT, Bluetooth 5.0, WIFI Direct, WIFI IEEE 802.11ax
    API: DirectX 12.X, DXR, DirectML
    PSU: 275W

    Flexible Dedicated vRAM - Console will use part of SSD as memory page.
    In Windows GPU is managed by VidSch and Vidmm. VidSch is responsible for scheduling the various engines of the GPU to processes operations and VidMm is responsible for managing all memory including both VRAM as well as pages of main DRAM (system memory) directly accessed by the GPU.
    On Scarlett Vidmm can malloc memory page mapped on SSD


     
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    56 would make it then 3584 shader core part. Well a 64 part would be really cool.
     
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    Dont forget that the name is Navy 21 so 20 series card. 7nm+ here we go.
     
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    Looks like they’ve been busy making Navi 20 at 64 CUs? Defective ones get disabled and made into 21 for consoles? Yields must be 75% if they’re in chipper form. If not then way less.
     
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    I can understand the desire to have AMD lower pricing, however, I don't mind it so much because I know production costs go up for 7nm, and also a significant part of their profits go into expanding R&D and also pad their money base. They've been operating in the RED for years, barely hanging on. Having the cash on hand will allow them to more effective manage and leverage their position in the market.
     
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    I don't have an issue with AMD raising prices on 7nm parts. I just want them to compete at the enthusiasts level. That would make me happy and I'm prepared to pay for it.
     
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    AMD releases a multithreaded CPU library for deformable material physics, FEMFX

    AMD has announced a multithreaded CPU library for deformable material physics, using the Finite Element Method (FEM), called FEMFX. The model supports a wide range of materials and interactions between materials. Moreover, this CPU library is currently available for download.

    According to the red team, the library uses extensive multithreading to utilize multicore CPUs and benefit from the trend of increasing CPU core counts. The system is also designed with the following considerations:

    • Fidelity: realistic-looking wood, metal, plastic, even glass, because they bend and break according to stress as real materials do.
    • Deformation effects: non-rigid use cases such as soft-body objects, bending or warping objects. It is not just a visual effect, but materials will resist or push back on other objects.
    • Changing material on the fly: you can change the settings to make the same object behave very differently, e.g., turn gelatinous or melt.
    • Interesting physics interactions for gameplay or puzzles.
    Here are the key features of FEMFX:

    • Elastic and plastic deformation
    • Implicit integration for stability with stiff materials
    • Kinematic control of mesh vertices
    • Fracture between tetrahedral faces
    • Non-fracturing faces to control shape of cracks and pieces
    • Continuous collision detection (CCD) for fast-moving objects
    • Constraints for contact resolution and to link objects together
    • Constraints to limit deformation
    • Dynamic control of tetrahedron material parameters
    • Support for deforming a render mesh using the tetrahedral mesh
    Developers can download the FEMFX library and sample code from here. The Unreal Engine plugin is also available here.

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    Will be cheaper ;)
    7nm still too expensive

    AMD went to Samsung for RX 5500 XT Navi 14 GPU

    A way to get enough GPUs to partners

    According to our sources, AMD might have tapped Samsung for the Navi 14 GPU that is powering the recently launched Radeon RX 5500 XT graphics card.

    It appears that AMD and Samsung will not only work together on a mobile smartphone GPU, as according to our sources, AMD is also using Samsung's fabs for its latest Navi 14 GPU for the Radeon RX 5500 XT graphics card.
    Unfortunately, it is hard to tell from where the chip originated, and we are not sure if all Navi 14 GPUs are made at Samsung, including the fully enabled Navi 14 GPU for Radeon Pro 5500M in Apple's Macbook Pro 16-inch laptop.

    While AMD was not specific about its Navi 14 GPU, other than it is based on 7nm manufacturing process, there are a couple of versions of the same GPU,
    with the one on the RX 5500 XT coming with 22 enabled RDNA Compute Units (CUs) for 1408 Stream Processors, while the Radeon 5500M Pro, has full 24 RDNA CUs, for 1536 Stream Processors.

    -> https://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/49991-amd-went-to-samsung-for-rx-5500-xt-navi-14-gpu
     

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    AMD Joins Blockchain Gaming Alliance, Partners with Robot Cache and Ultra

    AMD is the first major hardware manufacturer to join the Blockchain Gaming Alliance, established last year to promote the use of blockchain technology throughout the games industry.

    AMD's goal is to provide alliance members (which include Ubisoft) with efficient, high-performance computing platforms for blockchain-based gaming platforms which could, in the company's view, transform the games industry.

    Joerg Roskowetz, Head of Blockchain Technology at AMD, stated:


    Blockchain technology brings broader choice, security and flexibility to both gamers and publishers.
    Next-generation blockchain game platforms will give gamers access to exclusive online content, and provide new ways for them to truly own it.
    They will also provide game publishers with new channels to distribute digital game content.


    Nicolas Pouard, Blockchain Initiative Director at Ubisoft, added:


    The Blockchain Game Alliance is gathering some of the world’s top blockchain innovators and content developers to bring players the best of what this technology has to offer.
    We’re delighted to work with AMD, and other alliance members to determine the role of blockchain in the entertainment experiences of the future.


    Additionally, AMD partnered with blockchain game platforms Robot Cache, which debuted in June, and Ultra which is about to enter public beta testing.
    In both cases, AMD users with Ryzen processors and Radeon graphics cards will enjoy optimized cryptographic computing performance.

    The partnership with Ultra will also involve marketing to promote the blockchain initiative; additionally, AMD will provide game codes to its customers to be redeemed on the Ultra platform; these games will be a mix of AA, AAA and indie titles.

    Joerg Roskowetz, Head of Blockchain Technology at AMD, said:

    AMD is excited about the use of blockchain technology for games publishing, licensing and rights management. AMD and Ultra are working together to make next-generation, community-centric game publishing a reality, transforming the way games are purchased,
    shared and experienced.


    Nicolas Gilot, Co-CEO of Ultra, added:

    We’re excited to have AMD as a partner because of their dedication to gaming and blockchain technology.
    They saw our value proposition early on and recognized that blockchain is poised to change the face of gaming.

     
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    AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT Performance Benchmarks Leak Out - Much Faster Than The GTX 1660 Ti, Could End Up Close To The GTX 1080

    The AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT has seen various specifications leaks so far. The card is expected to offer a new GPU which is neither Navi 10 or Navi 14.
    It could be a new SKU configured for the RX 5600 XT and would have a different naming scheme than the GPUs featured on the RX 5700 and the RX 5500 series cards.
    In terms of core count, the stream processors would fall somewhere in between the RX 5500 XT's 1408 and RX 5700's 2304 SPs.
    We can get 1920-2048 stream processors but that is just speculation at this point.

    In a tweet, Videocardz has stated that the card would feature 6 GB of GDDR6 memory which was apparent from the listings but that does raise the question, were the 8 GB models just an error or would we get to see those too. Regardless, the 6 GB GDDR6 memory would be supplemented by a 192-bit bus interface and memory clocks would be rated at 12 Gbps.

    This is lower than the 14 Gbps featured on current Navi desktop offerings. It is possible that AMD could be featuring lower-spec'd dies to reduce the overall pricing of the RX 5600 XT as GDDR6 prices play a huge part in the overall cost of current-generation graphics cards. This would give us 288 GB/s bandwidth which is still a lot more than the 224 GB/s bandwidth featured on the RX 5500 XT.

    RX 5600 XT:
    • ? 6GB 192-bit 12 Gbps
    • ? new GPU, NOT Navi14
    • ? Might be: N10LE, N21, Ariel (no idea, just guessing).
    • ? Was told the GPU will also be used by sth else. Prob not a console as it lacks hw RT.
    • ? Was also told ASIC size will tell us a lot.

    — VideoCardz.com (@VideoCardz) December 22, 2019

    If you see the scores and compare it to the Radeon RX 5500 XT, you are looking at up to 30% better performance which puts this card in the same performance tier as the GTX 1070 Ti or the Radeon RX Vega 56.
    What AMD could be doing with the Radeon RX 5600 XT is offering a GeForce GTX 1660 Ti competitor with performance that almost matches the GTX 1080. Also, these are synthetic work loads so gaming performance would definitely differ from these results but the card still looks like it would give the GTX 1660 TI a tough time which is NVIDIA's fastest Turing based GTX offering at the moment.

    Pricing would be super crucial for the Radeon RX 5600 XT as we have already seen the Radeon RX 5500 XT 8 GB models with an MSRP of $200 US being priced up to $239 US. The Radeon RX 5600 XT can definitely fill in the spot at $279-$299 US as the successor to the RX 590.
    The card is expected to launch at CES 2020 which is a couple of weeks from now so we will be getting more information very soon.

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    Any infos about that Flexible Dedicated vRAM feature?

    Is it meant as like windows page-file like area? as 'virtual' ram oder video ram? so that the gpu has access to the ssd storage for stuff that doesn't fit into normal memory?

    I'm quite concert about Flash wearout due to massive write cycles when it's being used as video memory
    i know that flash memory is quite reliable but thinking about it as it's a console which's not meant to have user replacable parts i think it's a quite bad decission :(




    Offtopic: How can i use the spoiler button feature (for long quotes) ?
     
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