New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's Part 2

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by WhiteLightning, Sep 28, 2018.

  1. Undying

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    No wonder people are buying them. They are much cheaper than their nvidia counterparts and offering almost the same performance. Even the custom aibs like 5700xt devil are 100eur less than basic 2070s like asus dual.
     
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    I wonder what the return rate is after experiencing the drivers.
     
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    Future AMD GPU Architecture to Implement BFloat16 Hardware

    A future AMD graphics architecture could implement BFloat16 floating point capability on the silicon.
    Updates to AMD's ROCm libraries on GitHub dropped a big hint as to the company implementing the compute standard, which has significant advantages over FP16 that's implemented by current-gen AMD GPUs.
    BFloat16 offers a significantly higher range than FP16, which caps out at just 6.55 x 10^4, forcing certain AI researchers to "fallback" to the relatively inefficient FP32 math hardware.
    BFloat16 uses three fewer significand bits than FP16 (8 bits versus 11 bits), offering 8 exponent bits, while FP16 only offers 5 bits. BFloat16 is more resilient to overflow and underflow in conversions to FP32 than FP16 is, since BFloat16 is essentially a truncated FP32.
    The addition of BFloat16 is more of a "future-proofing" measure by AMD. Atomic operations in modern 3D game rendering are unlikely to benefit from BFloat16 in comparison to FP16.
    BFloat16, however, will pay huge dividends to the AI machine-learning community.
     
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    XFX appears to be prepping a THICCer Navi GPUs - The RX 5700 XT THICC III Ultra

    It looks like XFX's planning to go big with it's next Radeon Navi graphics card, building upon their already THICC Radeon RX 5700 XT models, expanding to a triple-fan setup which promised enhanced cooling potential and perhaps increased performance.

    Images of XFX's Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC III Ultra have appeared online, arriving via Videocardz. Alongside these images, the clock speeds of this graphics card have also been released, revealing a gaming clock speed of 1935MHz.
    This clock speed is 65MHz higher than XFX's Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC II.

    When compared to AMD's reference RX 5700 XT, the gaming clock of XFX's THICC III model is 10.3% higher than AMD's reference gaming clock speed of 1755MHz.
    This should deliver gamers a hefty performance boost over AMD's original RX 5700 XT GPU models.
    With their RX 5700 XT THICC III, XFX plans to bring forward the best possible performance from AMD's RDNA architecture and Radeon RX 5700 XT.
    This comes with the same chunky aesthetic as XFX's existing RX 5700 XT THICC II, albeit with an extended finstack and an additional fan.

    Like XFX's existing THICC II, the THICC III will feature a 2.7-slot design, scaling this graphics card to a thickness that's a lot larger than most modern graphics cards.
    While this necessitates the use of a larger PC case for some users, it also grants the GPU a chunky appearance, where it's chrome-like elements are reminiscent of classic cars and other luxury items.

    Looking at the THICC III, it seems clear that XFX remains committed to AMD/Radeon, and the scale of this GPU heatsink also shows that XFX is preparing themselves for the prospect of larger Radeon graphics hardware.
    Perhaps we will see this cooler, or one that's similar to it, on AMD's rumoured RX 5900 XT. If AMD's planning a "Big Navi" graphics card, XFX appears to be ready for it.

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    THX to Vidcardz & overclock3d.net
     
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    AOC Announces The AG273QX – An HDR 400, 165Hz, 27″ Monitor That Costs Under $350

    AOC's AGON series has added a new product to the lineup known as the AG273QX, this monitor is more focused on gamers with its high refresh rate of 165Hz and its HDR 400 certification, which means that the minimum brightness in cd/m2 of 400.
    AG273QX's port array includes VGA, DisplayPort 1.2 x1 and HDMI 2.0 x1, along with 4 USB 3.0s available for passthrough into the connected computer.

    The FreeSync 2 HDR is only up to the rating HDR 400, which has a minimum brightness of 400 brightness in cd/m2 , along with that it only has a color gamut for sRGB rather than the WCG, sadly the dimming technology is also not Zone-Level, a very common industry feature to have, it is Screen-Level. This means that instead of lighting up the spot where your mouse is, it would brighten your entire screen.

    The refresh rate of the AG273QX is 165Hz which lends itself to the gaming community, which is over twice the monitor industry standard of 60Hz. The blazing-fast response time of 1ms keeps the LCDs changing to keep up with the 165Hz VA Panel. The amazingly smooth refresh rate will keep up with how fast your graphics card pushes out this frame, along with FreeSync 2, which makes sure that there is no screen tearing, by keeping the variable refresh rate.

    The resolution of 1440p makes the visual of the stunning amazing, no matter the distance away from your monitor the screen will look great and be smooth with FreeSync 2 technology.

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    THX to Wccftech
     
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    Variable Rate Shading, A Possible Addition To The AMD Strategy?

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    AMD's patent which was filed all the way back in February of this year seems to suggest that for either an upcoming update or upcoming graphics card, VRS or Variable Rate Shading, would be implemented.
    Variable Rate Shading is a technique already in use by Nvidia in its graphics cards, VRS allows the GPU to spend more of its focus to the more complex/action orientated part of the screen, by saving resources on the less complex parts of the screen.
    The technique has helped Nvidia stay ahead of the AMD when it comes to raw performance.

    AMD's new graphics cards could come with VRS (Variable Rate Shading)

    It was theorized that Variable Rate Shading would be present in the now released NAVI GPUs the RX 5xxx series.
    Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like this was added to them in time for their release and where this is the most apparent is in the Virtual Reality,
    where any place the GPU can save some memory it should, and without VRS the GPU is rendering the entire shading at full aspect rather than saving power on the background.

    THX to wccftech
     
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    AMD ‘Big’ Navi GPU Passes RRA Certification – Powerful New High-End Radeon Flagship?

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    A featured image of the upcoming AMD 'Big' Navi GPU. Background image credits.

    After what seems like ages, there seems to be news on the high-end AMD GPU front.
    An AMD device codenamed "ATI-102-D18802" recently passed RRA certification and while this might seem like just a random string of digits,
    I used to trawl the now-dead Zauba all day long for relevant shipping entries which followed the same naming convention - and was quickly able to decipher it.
    The GPU in question is a much powerful variant of the Navi GPU (judging from the nomenclature) and here is the full story.
    That said, considering this is based on just a certification and it could end up being scrapped/revised again for all we know, please do keep a pinch of salt handy.

    AMD's Big Navi GPU gets getting its RRA certification, Radeon graphics cards preparing for a comeback in the high-end GPU market

    I am sure AMD wanted to keep this under wraps and make a comeback, but as they should know from Zen, the leak scene reigns supreme in the end.
    Before I go any further, I want to clarify that passing an RRA certification is usually the first step in the final phase of getting a product to market.
    It can take anywhere from 3 months to 6 months before you finally see a polished product hitting the shelves.

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    The RRA certification is something all consumer ASICs have to go through in South Korea - just like in the US. Unlike the States, however,
    RRA publishes its certifications in the public domain, which is great for us because it allows us to sniff out interesting new GPUs that are in the official pipeline.
    The AMD ATI-102-D18802 GPU received its RRA certification yesterday, meaning AMD has not only finalized its plans for the upcoming GPU but submitted it to the authorities as well (no more changes in design are now possible).

    The naming convention at play here is the one AMD used for shipping manifests during the Zauba years and something we were able to readily decode.
    To give you a recap: Hawaii boards for were named C6XXXX, Tonga boards C7XXXX, Fiji boards C8XXXX, Polaris boards C9XXXX, Vega boards D12XXX and small Navi boards were named D18XXX.

    In fact, if we are being specific about it than the exact code names were:

    • Hawaii XT had the C67101 code name.
    • Tonga had the C76501 code name.
    • Fiji XT had the C88001 code name.
    • Polaris 11 had the C91103 code name.
    • Vega 64 had the D12201 code name.
    • 'Small' Navi had the D18205 code name.
    You should be able to see a very clear pattern here. The first couple of digits represent the generation while the succeeding digits represent the relative performance metrics.
    The reason I know we are looking at a Navi GPU is because the three-digit alphanumeric sequence is the same: namely D18.
    The succeeding three digits represent the relative performance of the GPU and 805 represents a much more powerful variant of Navi compared to 205.

    Considering it just passed the certification, we are likely looking at the RDNA2-based full Navi die that will support ray tracing at a hardware level.
    This is the same GPU that will power the next-generation Playstation 5 and the Xbox as well (remember AMD designed Navi for the consoles, read more about that over here). In all likelihood, we are finally catching our first glimpse of "big" Navi.
    You might remember my exclusive published a year and a half back that predicted that the flagship Navi part won't land earlier than 2H 2019 or early 2020. Well, there you have it, folks, it's finally happening.

    I do want to turn on the cold shower a bit here, however, just because a GPU has passed RRA certification does not mean you will see it on the shelves anytime soon.
    In fact, a minimum of 6 months is a very good time frame to keep in mind and this can easily extend to over a year.
    We spotted Vega almost a full year back on RRA before it was finally released - which should give you an idea of the time frames involved.

    THX to wccftech
     
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    ASUS reveals its TUF Gaming VG249Q Adaptive-Sync Monitor with ELMB Sync

    ASUS' monitor division has a unique technology up its sleeve, one which promises to deliver gamers sharper images while maintaining support for VESA's Adaptive-Sync technology, which is also known as FreeSync.
    This technology is ELMB Sync (Extreme Low Motion Blur Sync), which uses a strobing backlight to deliver sharp images and minimal motion blur.

    What's unique about ELMB Sync is that ASUS' strobing blackings can run in tandem with Adaptive Sync, both when AMD users enable FreeSync and when Geforce users enable G-Sync.
    This feature allows gamers to benefit from ELMB technology and variable refresh rate technologies, delivering the best of both worlds when it comes to gaming.

    With their new TUF Gaming VG249Q, ASUS is bringing ELMB-Sync into the realms of 1080p 144Hz displays, shipping in the industry-standard 23.8-inch form factor while utilising an IPS display with a 1ms MPRT response time.

    ASUS has not released the pricing of this monitor at this time, though it is expected to be a budget-friendly offering. Even so, the screen will feature a VESA compliant stand with swivel, tilt, pivot and height adjustment and both DisplayPort and HDMI inputs.
    This screen lacks support for HDR and offers a maximum brightness of 250 nits.

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    There is nothing stopping nvidia from exposing ulmb and gsync together, except they can't guarantee the screens won't flicker.
     
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    AMD "Renoir" APU 3DMark 11 Performance Figures Allegedly Surface

    AMD "Renoir" is the company's next-generation APU that improves iGPU and CPU performance over the current 12 nm "Picasso" APU.
    An AMD "Renoir" APU engineering sample running on a "Celadon-RN" platform prototyping board, was allegedly put through 3DMark 11, and its performance numbers surfaced on Reddit, in three data-sets corresponding with three hardware configurations. In the first one, dubbed "config 1," the CPU is clocked at 1.70 GHz, the iGPU at 1.50 GHz, and the system memory at DDR4-2667. In "config 2," the CPU runs at 1.80 GHz, and the iGPU and memory frequencies are unknown.
    In "config 3," the CPU runs at 2.00 GHz, the iGPU at 1.10 GHz, and the memory at DDR4-2667. Raw benchmark output from 3DMark 11 Performance preset are pasted for each of the configs below (in that order).
    The three mention 3DMark database result IDs, but all three are private when we tried to look them up.

    The "config 1" machine scores 3,547 points in the performance preset of 3DMark 11. It's interesting to note here that the iGPU clock is significantly higher than that of "Picasso." In "config 2," a 3DMark performance score of 3,143 points is yielded.
    The CPU clock is increased compared to "config 1," but the score is reduced slightly, which indicates a possible reduction in iGPU clocks or memory speed, or perhaps even the iGPU's core-configuration.
    In "config 3," we see the highest CPU clock speed at 2.00 GHz, but a reduced iGPU clock speed at 1.10 GHz.
    This setup scores 2,374 points in the 3DMark performance preset, a 33% drop from "config 1," indicating not just reduced iGPU clocks, but possibly also reduced CU count.
    "Renoir" is expected to combine "Zen 2" CPU cores with an iGPU that has the number-crunching machinery of "Vega," but with the display- and multimedia-engines of "Navi."

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    I find it interesting that they're running the memory at 2667MHz, given that Matisse already support 3200MHz officially and far more than that when pushed. Curious whether they're just being needlessly conservative or the IGP doesn't benefit noticeably from higher memory bandwidth.

    The latter seems, after all, rather unlikely.
     
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    If 5900XT turns to be true I might just get it. And use my 5700XT for living room pc.
     
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    Many ;) (screen from YT).
    With pinch of sals as always.
    We don't need to over HYPE it :p
    --- just Good and healthy HYPE ----> :cool:

    IMO it's possible, my own source states that Big Navi will be using HBM2.
    I know what kind of Price Big Navi will have ~599-699USD (depends on model).

    Lets us hope they will deliver, I need GPU for 120-144FPS at 1440p.
     
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