New Upcoming ATI/AMD GPU's Thread: Leaks, Hopes & Aftermarket GPU's Part 2

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by WhiteLightning, Sep 28, 2018.

  1. Mugsy

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    Wanted to buy a pulse but i'll either get the thicc2 or the msi mech or wait for msi gaming X... I just can't make myself buy a gpu with only two years warranty when there are gpus with 3 years warranty, considering the over 400 euros price. After my last rx480 died after 2.5 years and if it wouldn't have been for msi's 3 year warranty, i would not have gotten my refund.
     
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    VESA Updates DisplayHDR Standard with Tighter Specifications and New DisplayHDR 1400 Performance Level

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    The Video Electronics Standards Association (VESA ) today announced that it has published the first major update to its widely adopted High-Performance Monitor and Display Compliance Test Specification (DisplayHDR), which is the display industry's first fully open standard specifying high dynamic range (HDR) quality. The updated spec, DisplayHDR version 1.1, includes tighter performance requirements, including for luminance and color gamut, as well as new test requirements, such as for active dimming, to address recent advances in HDR technology. Companies can begin certifying their display products under the new DisplayHDR 1.1 spec today. In addition, VESA will continue to allow products to be certified under the previous DisplayHDR 1.0 spec through the end of May 2020 in order to allow for products already in development that have been designed to meet the original spec, which was published in November 2017.In related news, VESA also announced that it has added a new 1400 performance level to the DisplayHDR standard, which targets professional content creators. The DisplayHDR 1400 level requires a dynamic contrast ratio that is 3.5X greater than the DisplayHDR 1000 level. ASUS will demonstrate the industry's first pre-certified display for the DisplayHDR 1400 spec at IFA 2019, being held in Berlin, Germany, September 6-11, in Messe Berlin in Hall 12, Booth 110. These latest developments reflect continued strong momentum for the DisplayHDR standard, which has more than 125 display models certified under the logo program to date.

    "Since we launched the DisplayHDR compliance test specification nearly two years ago, display manufacturers have made excellent progress in refining the performance and capabilities of their HDR displays beyond what was originally defined in the standard. To represent the gains that the display ecosystem has made in that time, VESA has updated the DisplayHDR standard with substantially tighter performance metrics," stated Roland Wooster, chairman of the VESA task group responsible for DisplayHDR, and the association's representative from Intel Corporation for HDR display technology. "While systems that already received DisplayHDR certification under the existing 1.0 spec are not required to recertify their products under DisplayHDR version 1.1, we believe that many of the systems that passed the original spec will also pass the new 1.1 spec. Going forward, we expect that the majority of new devices will be certified to DisplayHDR 1.1, resulting in an even greater and more consistent HDR experience for consumers."

    The DisplayHDR 1.1 specification includes a number of key performance updates, such as:
    • Active dimming - DisplayHDR now mandates active dimming performance levels, a feature that when adopted in displays can reduce power consumption and yield significantly darker black levels
    • DisplayID accuracy - ensures that accurate luminance and color gamut data is populated in the DisplayID or legacy Extended Display Identification Data (EDID), which enables the GPU to optimize the video signal for that display to ensure the highest display performance
    • Dual corner box test - the black-level test has been updated with larger corner box structures to allow for accurate colorimeter measurement of both black and white levels, resulting in improved dynamic contrast ratio testing
    • New color gamut specifications - DisplayHDR now includes a 10 percent color patch test in addition to the 100 percent full screen color test, with both tests now using the display's maximum luminance and RGB primary color values from the DisplayID/EDID; this revised test method more accurately determines the color gamut that will render on the display when running Windows
    • Combined color luminance - DisplayHDR has added a mechanism to validate full color volume at the full logo level luminance
    • New Delta-ITP test - added to test that the luminance level on the display is correctly rendered, helping to ensure the faithful reproduction of the original content creator's intent (luminance, and D65 white balance)
    • On-screen display (OSD) mode indication - any DisplayHDR-certified monitor with an on-screen menu function must now clearly indicate which modes support DisplayHDR, making it easier for users to optimize their display settings
    • DisplayPort certification specification - any DisplayHDR-certified monitor that has a DisplayPort interface must also undergo DisplayPort certification, ensuring that the display performs optimally with VESA DisplayPort-certified cables and other peripherals
    DisplayHDR 1400: A New HDR Performance Level for Content Creators
    In addition to updating the DisplayHDR compliance test specification (CTS), VESA has also introduced a new 1400 performance tier targeting professional content creators. This higher, premium performance tier provides a 40 percent increase in luminance and a 2.5X reduction in black level compared to the DisplayHDR 1000 tier - increasing the contrast range by 350 percent. Color gamut performance requirements have also been increased for the first time, from 90 percent to 95 percent of DCI-P3-D65 - a visibly noticeable difference compared to the 500/600/1000 tiers. Another key feature of the new DisplayHDR 1400 tier is that it requires 900 nits of brightness for full-screen long-duration (30 minute) testing, which provides for a rock-solid stable luminance-based display for professional and prosumer video editing.

    "As a long-time maker of leading professional displays, ASUS knows that true-to-life visual accuracy and stable, reliable performance are critical to content creators," said Vincent Chiou, associate vice president of the ASUS Display Business Unit. "With the latest DisplayHDR 1400 standard, VESA enables a new level of display realism, giving creators a new way to see their content and bring their projects to life. Delivering HDR performance at this level is difficult, so we are excited and proud to ship ASUS ProArt Display PA32UCG, the world's first pre-certified DisplayHDR 1400 monitor. ProArt Display PA32UCG offers exceptional performance and stability with peak white brightness of 1600 nits and a sustained full-screen brightness of 1000 nits. It's an ideal companion for content creators of all types to help them realize their creative visions."

    "The ProArt Display PA32UCG from ASUS can display 1000 nits full screen, which matches the best of today's reference monitors at any cost, and provides consistency when mastering. It also hits a spectacular 1600 nits peak, which is rare and helps immensely when preparing images for tone mapping. To have both these specifications in one display at this price point is truly amazing. VESA has recognized the need for higher quality mastering specifications and announced the VESA DisplayHDR 1400 standard. The PA32UCG is VESA DisplayHDR 1400 pre-certified. ASUS has once again raised the bar for HDR and invited everyone to the party. I am looking forward to collaborations with many more HDR pioneers now that the PA32UCG is available," stated Kevin Shaw, president of Colorist Society International and co-founder of International Colorist Academy.

    A specification performance summary table and additional documentation for the VESA DisplayHDR standard, including the updated DisplayHDR CTS version 1.1,
    is available for download at https://displayhdr.org/performance-criteria/
     
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  3. Astyanax

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    VESA finding more ways to screw people out of money.
     
  4. OnnA

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    Maximum Speed! :D
     
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  6. JonasBeckman

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    September 16th it seems at least for initial stock (And..gone. :p ) wonder what they can actually do beyond the third fan and a extended PCB as I assume the caps are still there for memory and overall clock results will be just about the same as the other 5700's but we'll see. :)
    (Should be a interesting comparison against the other tri slot Red Dragon too and Strix though that one has a higher price point but who knows what Nitro+ here will do in terms of cost until Sapphire makes a regular Nitro or just keeps with the Pulse variant both of which could happen.)

    EDIT: Ah an MSRP of 480 Euro so that's going to be interesting to see how that transitions into local pricing and supply and demand affecting cost too.
    (The Pulse XT model depending on availability is hovering around 520 Euro for comparison but is mostly out of stock.)


    EDIT: The driver issues with hardware acceleration and occasional game BSOD's do need to be de-screwed though so that's important as well and then we'll see when the 5600 (Navi14?) and 5800 (Navi12?) lands later this year or early next year perhaps?
     
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  7. OnnA

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    ^^ If it gets 2050MHz (or Faster) then it will be Great GPU for sure.
     
  8. MaCk0y

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    What's the card length? In non freedom units. :p

    It's €440 and in stock.

    Edit: If from Sweden, it's €466 for you.
     
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  9. Exodite

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    Hmm, are we sure this matters?

    I've read/watched a fair few 5700 XT reviews and while many are able to bump core clocks, sometimes substantially, the impact on actual performance seem negligible. The cards appear to be almost entirely memory limited, even more so than Vega, and the current memory controller can't seem to handle anything beyond really minor overclocks.

    I think we'll have to wait for either a silicon revision or the 5800 series to get better performance.
     
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  10. OnnA

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    2050MHz + Gives 28k+ in FS easy for Navi.
    Vega 64 to do this needs at last 1730MHz and Hefty HBM2 OC (1175MHz) with Timing Mod (264tW) ;)
     
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  11. Exodite

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    I don't doubt that, you know FireStrike far better than I do!

    I were talking about the performance gain in actual games though. :)
     
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    27GL850-B 27" 2560x1440 NANO IPS 144Hz 1ms FreeSync Widescreen LED Gaming Monitor

    World's First Nano IPS Monitor with 1ms
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    Nano IPS covers 98% of the DCI-P3 color space, the professional film industry standard. The Nano IPS display delivers stunning image reproduction that brings your virtual world to life from any vantage point.

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    With a 1ms response rate on a Nano IPS display, reduced blur and ghosting will lead you to dominate and clinch victory.

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    • 144Hz refresh rate (OC up to 175Hz)
    • FreeSync (LFC Low Frame Conpensation) YES
    • HDR 10
    • DP Version 1.4 (32BG/s)

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    Brightness (Min.) 280 cd/m2
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    Color Gamut (Min.) DCI-P3 90% (CIE1976)
    Color Gamut (Typ.) DCI-P3 98% (CIE1976)
    Color Depth (Number of Colors) 1.07B
    Contrast Ratio (Min.) 700:1
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    Response Time "WW : 1ms (GtG at Faster),
    KR : 2ms (GtG at Faster)"
    Viewing Angle (CR=10) 178o(R/L), 178o(U/D)
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    -> https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lg-2...le-widescreen-led-gaming-monit-mo-155-lg.html

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  13. Maddness

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    That's something I'm after for my next screen. Close enough to 200hz for me.
     
  14. -Tj-

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    Any more news on rx 5800 & 5900?
     
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    Yeah I wish we had some leaked news on them even they aren’t due till next year.
     

  16. OnnA

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    November/December we will know something for sure ;)
    Im hoping for HBM2 and HBCC.
     
  17. The_Amazing_X

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    Yes hbcc is a must have. Division 2 at 1440p already runs at 9g vram. Ark runs at 7g and that dx11 and junk unreal engine.
     
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  18. OnnA

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    ATI Tech have lots of great technology.... first GPU on planet to reach 1GHz was 7970GHz Ed.

    • Double rate FP16 math (Rapid Packed Math)
    • HBM2 w/HBCC
    • New memory page management for the high-bandwidth cache controller
    • Tiled rasterization (Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer)
    • Primitive shading for even faster triangle culling
    • Direct3D feature level 12.1 graphics features (11.0/ 11.1/ 11.2/ 11.3/ 12.0/ 12.1 and is 12.2 Ready)
    and now some more with Navi :D
     
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    Looks good. Hopefully there is a bit more left in the tank when it comes to overclocking the GDDR6
     

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