New Samsung QLED TV Becomes 100 Percent Color Volume Verified

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    So this basically means it is able to produce the same colors at all brightness levels. Yawn. Color volume - seriously? Where are the emissive QLEDs? OLED is just a much better buy at this price. Useless marketing once again.
     
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    I think you should read the article I linked.
     

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    From the article: "Technically, it is the 3D representation of the maximum color-reproduction capabilities of a given display throughout the entire range of brightness levels, resulting in a 3-dimensional shape or volume as seen below."

    So it just means it is capable of displaying the same colors throughout it's brightness range, which is exactly what I said. I'd much rather have infinite contrast and perfect viewing angles over 100% color volume.
     
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    Agree. But price have matter. And in EU for good OLED still need pay more than DX900 - best HDR LCD display in market.
    OLED white and HDR representation is still behind good LCD.
    I also remember Samsung in 2016.. It was huge marketing.
    And same huge joints in quality control. Only feature tell us, if will be same.
     
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    Not sure if I would agree with this statement: http://televisions.reviewed.com/features/oled-vs-led-tvs-thanks-to-hdr-the-gap-is-closing

    But then again we have another article saying the opposite:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/christinawallace/2017/02/06/big-band-theory/#17800672188e

    In the end it all comes down to personal preference, but as we still live in the pre-HDR era I'd still buy the TV that delivers the best performance of both worlds, and that is without a doubt an OLED TV at this point.
     
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    Current OLED's have some limitations from T-Con and TFT side.
    Last 3 years LG play with APL. That is not best solution for increasing brightness.

    Look here: https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1484640539
     
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    Samsung produces the best OLED screens for smartphones, I wonder why they can't produce OLED screens for TVs. they are just bigger, there is no other difference I think. lets be honest OLEDs have much better picture quality compare to any other technology, they are just incomparable to LCDs.
     
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    @Toss3
    so you prefer a bright picture, over one that has accurate colors, e.g. correct skin tones so ppl dont look like they have yellow fever?
    the perfect samsung customer, as most of their tvs are running cranked up picture settings, so as to stand out in a retail environment.


    and if its "my "tv, i dont care about viewing angles, as i'm sitting right in front of it.
     

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    Saw these at CES this year. My eyes just about popped
     
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    Spot on.

    I'd die for a TV/monitor with Tab S2 screen
     
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    BS. These are edgelit sets. You can piece together a full color volume with them, but not all at once. Those leaf colors sound great, too bad it can't be done in the same zone at the same time.
     
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    This is all meh to me till they start making 32-40 using QLED, which they dont it only the huge highend TV's
     
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    That is true. What ever local dimming they used would cause a lot worse blowout. This would be much better with FALD.
     

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    In what insane viewing scenario would someone want this? I wish panel/TV manufacturers would quit avoiding improving black levels. Getting full CMS (at least 7x7x7) to take advantage of random color specs would be nice too.
     
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    Retail environment does not show a properly calibrated panel because they do not sell well to the masses. With our eyes being more sensitive to blue light, a TV with a bit more blue saturation will be perceived as a better picture when sitting next to the same panel that is properly calibrated. Sets that are properly calibrated do not sell as well as panels showing overly saturated colors.

    Calibration is about getting our sets to mimic the panels used in the authoring studios, as closely as possible, so that we see what the director signed off on for home video. Home video has a smaller color gamut than theaters. Other words it is all about artistic preference which is subjective at best. There is no accounting for taste.

    Samsung is going down the path of more colorful scenery, sports and animation. Something current OLED sets, as mentioned in the linked article serval posts up, suffer reproducing as well as LEDs. Samsung is aiming for mass market appeal. Hence all the marketing bs.
     
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    Improving peak brightness has one major benefit.

    When your peak brightness is higher, you have a lot more headroom to show color before the brightness desaturates it. With 8-bit Blu-rays, there isn't a ton of room...if the image is too bright, then you lose color volume. There's much more headroom in HDR10, and an insane level of headroom in Dolby Vision (12-bit), which can do from 4,000 nits to an estimated 10,000. It'll likely be awhile before we get here, but expect films to have much more color in bright scenes going forward.
     
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    Ah...

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