New router, recommendations?

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  1. pimpernell

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    I am looking for a new router (switch?)

    I now use a zyxel P8702N that i got from my fiber isp. This is a awful router that maximise the cpu and ram just using my 250mb connection to the max. I even don't use the wifi transmitter. That i have a asus rt-ac66u in ac mode for.

    Most of my network is cabled (pc, media server, tv, chromecast/v3, printer etc). Wifi i only use for phones, seldom used laptop and a tablet.

    The asus i tried to use, but when i hit over 120mbps in download and use the lan at the same time, the cpu maxes out to 100% and everything grinds to a halt. It is just too old for high speed use, but still very usable as a hub/wifi access point. (i have the latest merlin wrt firmware on it)

    So i have been looking for a quad core router to be sure i never run into the cpu bottleneck when the fiber get upgraded in the future.
    But they are so darn expensive and none is available here.
    So maybe just a modern dual core that can use custom firmware is ok?

    I have looked at the Linksys WRT3200ACM (dual core 1.8ghz)
    Anyone have this and can recommend it? Very good priced right now
    https://www.linksys.com/us/p/P-WRT3200ACM/

    The higher end asus routers are much higher priced.
    Or anyone recommend a switch instead? The wifi i can do with the ac66u just fine. (must have dhcp server)
    Any suggestions are appreciated (must be able to use custom rom's like dd-wrt,tomato or merlin or similar)
    I also use vpn on my server only. If any routers can use open vpn (vpn unlimited, but they use open vpn standard) on one ip/port only, i will be willing to pay more. Use software based vpn now.
     
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  2. Steppzor

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    Recently switched over to a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X. Small little powerful router for 50$ or so. WAN-TO-LAN throuhput 930Mb/s after activating hardware offload. Lot's of features. No WiFi tho so need your own acesspoint for that.

    Use it myself on a 500/500Mb/s fiber connection without any issues.
     
  3. pimpernell

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    So many different versions:
    https://prisguiden.no/sok?q=Ubiquiti Edgerouter X

    den på dustin?

    How is cpu load on that when maximizing download , f.ex steam download?
    Is it a dual core? Is the dhcp server good? I do not know the software on those, is it easy to setup and can you use a open vpn client?

    Also see someone having latency issues with latest firmware, is this fixed?
    https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeM...ter-X-after-1-9-1-upgrade/td-p/1795197/page/2
     
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  4. Steppzor

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    This is the cheapest one in Norway https://prisguiden.no/produkt/ODMxXjYxNDMy

    I have not checked the CPU load on it when maxing my connection, but I can check and report back when I get home.

    Have not noticed any latency issues with it. Been using it for 2-3 weeks now, but thanks for the information, I will look into that thread when i get back home.

    Hardware specs:

    Processor
    Dual-Core 880 MHz, MIPS1004Kc

    System
    Memory 256 MB DDR3 RAM

    Code Storage
    256 MB NAND

    Some of the features:

    Interface/Encapsulation Ethernet
    802.1q VLAN
    PPPoE
    GRE
    IP in IP
    Bridging
    Bonding (802.3ad)

    Addressing
    Static IPv4/IPv6 Addressing
    DHCP/DHCPv6

    Routing
    Static Routes
    OSPF/OSPFv3
    RIP/RIPng
    BGP (with IPv6 Support)
    IGMP Proxy

    Security
    ACL-Based Firewall
    Zone-Based Firewall
    NAT

    VPN
    IPSec Site-to-Site and Remote Access
    OpenVPN Site-to-Site and Remote Access
    PPTP Remote Access
    L2TP Remote Access
    PPTP Client

    Services
    DHCP/DHCPv6 Server
    DHCP/DHCPv6 Relay
    Dynamic DNS
    DNS Forwarding
    VRRP
    RADIUS Client
    Web Caching
    PPPoE Server

    QoS
    FIFO
    Stochastic Fairness Queueing
    Random Early Detection
    Token Bucket Filter
    Deficit Round Robin
    Hierarchical Token Bucket
    Ingress Policing

    Management
    Web UI
    CLI (SSH, Telnet)
    SNMP
    NetFlow
    LLDP
    NTP
    UBNT Discovery Protocol
    Logging
     

  5. Agent-A01

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    That one.

    These aren't complicated in setting up.

    It's a dual core MIPS CPU, regardless it does not matter with hardware offloading.

    These will be much faster in networking tasks compared to standard routers.

    Any specific issues are usually solved quickly, firmware is 1.9.7 now.
     
  6. Steppzor

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    Yeah it's much faster and after using this one for a little while, i'm never going back to a regular router.

    Yeah its not complicated. It comes with a Wizard for novice user or you can go all balls out and configure it from scratch :D
     
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  8. Steppzor

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    Cool, just tested too see CPU usage while downloading.

    @ 60 MB/s the CPU usage was between 1% with a few jumps up to 8% and back down again. Suspect this is to do with my other stuff going on on the network. RAM usage 22%, but was that amount before i started the download.
     
  9. pimpernell

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    Finally got it up and running. Great little box!!

    The default firmware had a awful setup wizard that, but after upgrading to the latest firmware and resetting/running wizard again, the thing worked beautifully.
    Until i did see that upload speed was worse than before (for some reason isp never capped upload, so got 1gb up :)
    But after enabling hw offload (after troubleshooting for a long while), i now get full speed up.

    Here is how you enable it if anyone wonders.
    https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115006567467-EdgeRouter-Hardware-Offloading-Explained

    Remember to use the *configure* command first, then *commit* when done.
     
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  10. Steppzor

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    Glad you liked it :D

    Yeah, need to enable HW Offload or else you are capped at 420Mbps WAN-2-LAN / LAN-2-LAN Throughput :D
     

  11. pimpernell

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    Just have to give some feedback on this little wonderbox.
    I can now maximize download & lan, never reached more than 11% cpu use and 30% ram usage whatever i throw at the network. This include streaming 4k movies from my plex server while downloading from steam at full speed :)

    So anyone who is looking at upgrading their all in one routers, look no further.
    the https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/ for 49$, nothing else in that price range is coming close. Use your old all in one as a wifi/hub access point.
     

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