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New Firmware update Reportedly solves Ryzen 3000 boot issues Linux

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Aug 14, 2019.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Booting Linux on the new Ryzen platform was a hit and miss.
    For me this is what bothered me since the launch.
    Phoronix explained in detail how
    it is an RdRand instruction issue on these newer processors manifested by systemd.
    Now, having this issue solved, my new computer can be built and the upgrade from Skylake finally done.
     
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    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    Of course anticupidon was the first to comment here. =)
     
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    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    ^ Why is that??
     

  5. Paulo Narciso

    Paulo Narciso Maha Guru

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    • Warnings "Event 17, WHEA-Logger" eliminated in Windows Event Log - THIS IS NOT FIXED
     
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    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Not sure, but I too wasn't all surprised to see you first posting on Ryzen + Linux tbh, not in a bad way just... first :D
     
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    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    Because of Linux.

    What, there is Windows Event Log in Linux?
     
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  8. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Sheesh, that makes me one of few Gnu/Linux G3D gurus...
    My avatar kinda gave me a leeway into this.
    But I'm ok with it, feels more natural as times passes to use Linux, rather than Windows.
    And Ryzen/Threadripper works better under Linux kernel, it's just a hidden truth.

    https://kde.org/applications/system/org.kde.ksystemlog
     
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    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    I find it interesting how a lot of news sources seem to acknowledge that Destiny 2 and Linux had Ryzen 3000 problems, where rdrand was known to be the culprit, yet nobody seems to connect the two. By fixing Destiny 2, Linux in turn was also fixed.

    Same here.
    Haha the avatar only gives it away to Linux users (I'm also an Arch user, BTW). I don't think the logo means anything to most people.
     
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    asturur Master Guru

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    i think that games apart, everything runs better on linux.
    I got a macbook for work, got used to it, and now if i have to choose between windows and linux i would take linux 100% or hackintosh.
     
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    I had no problem till now. I'm using my old Debian 9 (kernel 4.9) installation (i5+Z77) on my R7 3700X flawless. :D
     
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    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    Actually if the game has a native port and didn't use a lazy DX to OGL translation, it's pretty common for games to run better on Linux. Really gets you to question why Windows drivers are hundreds of MB, when all GPU drivers for Linux combined make up less than 100MB (excluding Nvidia's proprietary drivers).
     
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    i think drivers are big becaue they may contain specific code for specific games. So called optimizations.
    I may be wrong tho.
     
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    That is definitely some of it, though as I alluded to before, you can often get the same performance without any of those application-specific optimizations. A lot of it is just bloatware.
    I do give somewhat of a pass for stuff like CUDA, since Nvidia is basically providing the entire API and ABI and a lot of the resources necessary to use it.
     
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    Once, just for the kicks, I opened a Synaptics driver which was about 200 Mbs in size.
    Well, most of it was a how to guide and lots pictures and short movies/animations about how to scroll.
    The actual driver was around 10 mega.
    Now, really one can appreciate the simpler approach of the Linux kernel having the drivers baked in. No bloatware, no nonsense.
    But I digress, sorry
     
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    When I read such news I appreciate more distros like Gentoo that do not jump on the latest (broken) software as soon as it’s available. First it gives me the possibility of not using systemd, and the default kernel is still 4.9 too.

    (That’s not to say that Gentoo is perfect; it isn’t.)
     
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    Speaking if Linus....this article was brought to you by.... Guru3d!
     
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    I just finished my build with a Ryzen 3900X and a MSI MPG gaming mainboard and there is definatly some strange behavior when i start the PC on first boot it will get stuck in windows load or if i go to th BIOS it will lock up, then after 1-2 power off it will boot normally, other than that the CPU is running very smooth and i already love.
     
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    Yes, AMD did indeed somehow fix the RDRAND problem with the 1.0.0.3ABB AGESA version.

    The only confusion there I guess is that motherboard manufacturers have picked different names for the RDRAND problem when writing changelogs etc, many choosing to refer to it as the "Destiny 2" problem.
     
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    just a reminder you need to power off the system after applying this patch for the chipset driver fix to no longer disable the RD instructions.
     

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