Need help selecting the best video card possible...

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by Phil Jacques, May 29, 2010.

  1. Estima8tor

    Estima8tor Ancient Guru

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    I fully understand, I've been in the same situation many times before. Sometimes you just have to make the best of what you've got.

    I guess since you've already done the memory upgrade and plan to hold on to it for a while longer, a power supply upgrade would be a worth while investment.

    That 9800GT was a really good deal and gloves085 may be right about not needing a 400w psu. That particular card doesn't require the additional pci-e power connection and may work with you 300w psu.

    Good luck with whatever route you decide to go. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people lurking around here if you need help with anything.
     
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  2. Knutselmaaster

    Knutselmaaster Active Member

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    Don't buy on the site you link Phil, it is terribly expensive there.
    Grab yourself a 4850 or 4770 , it saves you from problems changing from ATI to Nvidia and is better than a 9800 too.
    As you don't seem to be a experienced graphics card installer, it saves from you all kind of driver sweeping etc.
     
  3. Phil Jacques

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    Since I am running a pair of TV's for monitors, would it make any difference for me to use HDMI Connection on my main screen and VGA Connection on the other?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150482&cm_re=4850-_-14-150-482-_-Product

    that is a 4850 I found... 109 with free shipping, I think I can deal with that...

    Requires a 450w PS tho... and you are saying the 9800 wont? All the 9800s on New Egg seem to say that they require between 350 and 450w psu I'm so confused hahaha

    also, what are stream processors, and does more mean better?
     
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    The CPU is the brains of the Pc, however the power supply is the heart. So save yourself the problems, and buy decent power supply. the Thermaltake 600 watt already posted is nice and will serve you for a great deal of time.
     
  6. Phil Jacques

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    okay, if i buy the thermaltake then which video card is THE best, brands aside... which offers best performance? The 4850 or the 9800GT?
     
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    Stukov Ancient Guru

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    What resolution do you play at?

    Looking at some benchmarks, when the 5670/5750 was bench marked the 4850 beat the 9800GT in most benchmarks. However resolution may change a few % you may also not notice a difference with your CPU bottleneck. Here is a card at the ~100 mark and is single slot. You may also try to go to our Trade forum and see if you can find a used 4850 for less.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161297
     
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  8. Phil Jacques

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    I play the game at 1920x1080 because I am running a pair of 36" LG HDTVs
     
  9. Knutselmaaster

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    with my 4850 i play most recent games on 1920x1080 with highest possible settings, 16xaf and 4xaa, if i put 8xaa i run into a memory short on my graphics card, because i got 512mb version.
    But on that resolution i can't see any difference between 4x and 8x.
    1024mb memory would allow 8x tho, but they are a bit more expensive.
    about 80 bucks for the 512 version and 100 bucks for the 1024.
    It is quite faster than the 9800 in any case.
    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/255963-15-4850-9800gt
     
  10. Phil Jacques

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    then it's settled I guess... I'll get the 4850 1gb and the Thermaltake PS (as long as it will fit my case properly) i looked at the pictures vs. the rear mounting pattern for the screws on the power supply, they look identical, so that should mean that it would fit?? My dad mentioned that when he tried to replace the power supply on his Vaio, the one he got had the same style screw pattern in the pictures, but when he got it, the physical PS was too large to fit in his case and he had to send it back and order a new one... did he just chose the wrong type??
     
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    Measure your case's space from the back plane to the first thing in the way of the front of the PSU. Then, look at the specs of the PSU.
     
  13. Phil Jacques

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    the dimensions on my current psu match up exactly with a "standard" atx power supply according to the link above.

    Standard - 3.25h | 6w | 5.5d
    Mine - 3.25h | 6w | 5.5d
    Thermaltake listed earlier in thread - 3.3h | 5.9w | 5.5d

    so It seems like it will fit? is the 3.3h vs 3.25h anything to worry about? It doesn't seem like much but without taking my current PS out, I dunno how much wiggle room there is haha Thank you for all your help guys!!!
     
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    You should be fine.
     
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    sounds good! thanks guys!
     

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    Not a problem at all, be sure to let us know how it goes.
     
  17. Knutselmaaster

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    np, that's what the community is for m8!
    I hope you find what you need for a good price ;)
    Keep us updated on how your pc is running after the upgrade :)
     
  18. Phil Jacques

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    well for quick reference...

    my current card is this... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6304503&CatId=3668

    the one I am buying now is this... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150482&cm_re=4850-_-14-150-482-_-Product

    with graphics CRANKED in game on my current card, and all the tweaks I have done... I see 12fps on an open track at full speed with 3 or 4 cars around me... once I get in a big pack however, it goes WAY down...

    I am expecting with the new card and psu, in the same situation, to be sitting right at 50 or so...
     
  19. Knutselmaaster

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    The max speed will depend on your cpu now.
    The card will go way over 50fps for that game if the cpu provides it with info fast enough.
     

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