Navi RDNA Owners Thread, Tests, Mods, BIOS & Tweaks !

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by OnnA, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. Undying

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  2. Grimbarian

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    Won't that push it too far considering the card is the reference model with a single fan?
     
  3. SpajdrEX

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    Definitely not worth it, especially for the reference model.
    Just get MorePowerTool and lower TDC Limit SoC (A) from 14 to 11 or 10 (some cards are not stable on 10 or below), to get lower temps on nearly everything on the card.
     
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    It would work and around 10% free performance. Just keep your temperatures under control.
     

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    Perfect thanks, never heard of that, the kind of thing I was hoping to learn about with my post!

    I'll bear that in mind but as it'd void the warranty not sure I want to go there yet if only for 10% ;) Thanks for the reply :)
     
  6. JonasBeckman

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    So that's probably part of why so many of the non-reference bios models have a SOC of not 1.2 same as the GPU core voltage but 1.050 then apparently without any drawbacks but going lower might not be 100% stable, interesting. :)
    Didn't expect the other bits to contribute that much to overall temps either but perhaps they do it is a significant reduction over the stock value after all.

    EDIT: Would avoid flashing the stock model as well if it doesn't feature a bios switch so you always have backups of both and one good bios for reverting a bad flash from without requiring a secondary GPU or similar to undo it if anything goes wrong.
    (Well more unstable than outright bad unless a incompatible utility was used for flashing as the bios files are a bit larger compared to earlier GPU model and probably more beyond just the file size itself.)
     
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  7. MaCk0y

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    Depends on the user? :confused: The question should be, does AMD know what they are doing with NAVI drivers?
     
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    No comment...take that for what it is worth. Certain people will understand. That is as far as I can go at this time.
     
  9. mtrai

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    You are safe to flash the reference gpu...from 5700 to 5700xt as neither is at the max VRM rating for power draw. After that use either More power tool to adjust things or elovps tool but you have to use windows safe mode to run his..

    Also keep in mind you most likely have micron vram which overclocks better then then samsung used in the 5700xt. With that said most micron will hit hit 950 (1900) with ease. And one last thing is both the 5700 5700 xt are both power starved if you are looking for performance. Undervolting is all good and well but when wanting performance it needs power.

    Anyhow here are my settings with morepower tool

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. JonasBeckman

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    Hmm interesting to see pushing the GPU above the limits as a potential means for getting above the 2100 Mhz threshold, would be fun to try when I can build up the new system since the current one is somewhat CPU and RAM throttled even if the upgrade (Minimum FPS particularly.) is a clear improvement over the Vega more than I was expecting it to be. :)

    ~1900Mhz and pushing the power limit to +10 makes a slight improvement but above that to the default of +50 does nothing but draw more power for the card, -10 though sees a immediate cut in clocks though that persists when lowering max clocks so that's something too but overall undervolting was a clear gain with no loss in the clock speed behavior and a nice drop in temps and power consumption though it's mostly just for the temps and having a slightly lower fan profile to silence the card slightly more.
    (GPU gets really effective at even lower speeds and even then it doesn't drop much in terms of performance which was also interesting but this way I get the most out of the current situation with just the benefits until I can re-try it with newer hardware.)

    EDIT: Though around 2000 is where the card is kinda at a good average though benchmarks I suppose can draw a bit more out of it, otherwise up or down it's plus or minus 4 percent or so for performance weighted against temps and power draw plus the GPU core voltage if undervolting.
    (But with modding the GPU might no longer peak at 2050 - 2100 allowing some more gains still.)

    Depending on card and such since all will vary slightly and if memory clocks can push a bit higher this will also be a advantage and scale at least a bit better with higher core clock speeds.


    EDIT: Benchmarks are good though long as it's not something like Furmark as you get optimized drivers and software showing the GPU's strengths in full compared to a random game with various limitations and differing results.
    (If the hardware could operate at peak efficiency that'd be a difference too for gaming but there's usually some limitations and hindrances.)
     
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  11. Ryu5uzaku

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    I'm thinking custom cooling my reference 5700xt any suggestions? Cause I could totally do a waterblock
     
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    My quick check on RX 5700xt and 19.12.1 drivers: i think there is more fixes than listed in changelog.
    The Division 2 DX 12 is working smooth, no stuttering, game is working fullscreen and close like expected not into black screen.
    Squad: no stuttering in 1440p (earlier it was regardless the settings low or ultra) on ultra settings
    Rainbow Six Siege: games now working alt+tab in fullscreen mode, not perfectly it will occasionally go into black screen but its not dead, few more alt+tabs and it works.
    All tried in 1440p 144Hz ... waiting for bigger update, got high expectations about this
     
  14. mtrai

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    Just thought I would share my Neon Noir Raytracing bench at 1920 x 1080 default settings. Remember my 5700XT is under a full waterblock.

    8353

    [​IMG]
     
  15. The_Amazing_X

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    My vega does 6100 MAX. I think prob AMD needs to update the driver to give it a better performance.
     

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    Morpheus? Should fit. I wouldn't recommend it for radeon7 as seems to have canvas a little bit and hbm2 are not sticking to it, but navi core is smaller, so this shouldn't be an issue.
    My morpheus after some polishing gave on vega64 good results like 78 c max junction temperature. Bit more on radeon7, so I made WC from evga CPU cooler.
    If u can go water. U can gain +10% performance with ease I think.
     
  17. Ryu5uzaku

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    https://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=46

    I think I could use this. Would fit my case coloring also. Hmmh then just two fans to it. I wonder if I should go for some corsair magnetic levitation or what is the best currently anyways relatively silent too.
     
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    Mine 5700xt on ultra 1080p:
    [​IMG]
    But dropping to very high gives much improvment:
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  19. GREGIX

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    Nah, no corsair levitation. It need some space, so close to fins will be noisy. Unless my experience with 140mm is not comparable to 120mm....
    Anyway, some silent wings or so from be quiet or even arctic, driven by motherboard on 1200+1300 rpm area would be fine.
     
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