Multiplayer Gaming Blamed for US Sales Decline

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  1. nOv1c3

    nOv1c3 Maha Guru

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    I REALLY don't like that guy.

    Here's an idea. Make games with, you know, better GAMEPLAY that are longer than 6 hours.
     
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    So, let me get this straight.

    They guy makes a product nobody wants to buy.
    Then blames the competition for delivering the product the customer wants.
    Then wants the competition to extort the customers so the product nobody wanted should seem comparatively better?

    One might almost think he was a record-company exec.

    //Svein
     
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    Michael Pachter and his summer´s wet dreams of monopoly where he can dictates how everyone should program his games ...

    geez

    Michael Pachter ... you can´t blame a developer becouse do a game how everyone whant.

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    IMO The problem is that the market is flooded with FPSs, even in consoles, and the people just buy the best one to play and forget the rest, but you can´t blame them for this.

    You should just do a better game, that´s all.
     
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    Wow, just read this bit guy should hang himself. Like they don't make enough cash start with. It's like buying a car then the company charging you extra for driving it long distances on a motorway.

    Pachter said that the problem will continue, and that publishers should start charging for online play--starting with Activision's Call of Duty Black Ops.
     
  6. Ghosty

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    Sounds like greed to me. Or just the fact that MMO's make a lot of money, but almost nearly as much to keep up and running in the long run.

    "We think that it is incumbent upon Activision, with the most popular multiplayer game, to take the first step to address monetization of multiplayer," he said. "It is too early to tell whether that will be a monthly subscription, tournament entry fees, microtransaction fees, or a combination of all three, but we expect to see the company take some action by year-end, when Call of Duty Black Ops launches."

    It has also been pointed out that there are way to many FPS on consoles and the PC these days. Most of these are rubbish, with only a couple making big bucks. Its almost like the games industry is trying to self implode, which is fine by me. Also looks like i wont be buying another Activision game ever again...
     
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    Is this supposed to be some kind of revelation? Of course gamers are buying less games because of multiplayer, since it increases replayability by 100X. It's an unavoidable result. The thing, this is not just limited to multiplayer, sand box-mod friendly games like Morrowing keep some people playing for years as well. It's nature of games to be like that, unlike movies or books. But, so what? If these retards can't stay in business of making games then get a **** out and go do something else. Gaming publishers and developers have become such a bunch of whiny bitches, that I really could care less if all the major ones go down. Adjust your business model morons, instead of blaming the actual purpose of your product for your income loss. Idiots.
     
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    Exactly, but what this guy is saying is they should make money every time you decide to play multiplayer element of their game, so charging you per usage basis. All this you must be connected online DRM crap for single player, really think it's to stop piracy? or another method for them track your usage, an apply fee's for even playing sandbox games too.
     
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    I agree mod and multi-play increase the replayability of games. I think the sole reason why the sale decline is simply because too many crap game on the market.
     
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    Another reason why the industry needs to be smaller than it is now. To be honest, does anyone care about the PC market anymore? I don't me us, what i mean is that all people care about these days is making a quick buck with as little work as possible. This has to change or it is going to end badly.
     

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    Well from piracy too second hand games and now onto online gaming....i wonder what's next to be blamed.....the Dutch no doubt. LOL
     
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    I have a feeling that everybody knows this man is a bit of a laughing stock. The article opens calling him a talking head, i.e. he doesn't actually stop to think about what he is saying. Here is one thing he didn't stop to think about. Online play is currently free, and we still don't want every single new game released. If online play is no longer free, then not only will we not want every new game, but we won't be able to afford it either.
     
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    Wow just read all the comments on that link, bet that Michael Pachter is
    feeling good now... not.

    I personally think it's one of the dumbest & over inflated ideas I've seen. The
    only way that I can see them making any revenue from a game online is to
    use advertising. I know it's been tried but what about this idea:-

    Get revenue for advertising from objects in a game world. Like the cola can
    being blown across the car park. Put objects that you have in real life into
    a game, like said soda can and charge the soda company for placing their
    product in the world. It's not targeted so no need to worry that your
    excursions into the murky side of the web bringing iffy adverts to your
    families living room. Just logical thinking.. 'oh that car's the new Ford'
    or 'Wasn't that the new Sony 'Bigdada' 80" LED TV my frag grenade
    shredded?'


    If done right the game dev's can get accurate models supplied by the companies,
    thus saving money on asset design and charge them for their inclusion.
    Might be a better way for now. Plus might stop Google hoovering up all
    the advertising revenues.

    0.02c
     
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    If charging for multiplayer becomes a norm, you can bet that cracked servers become a norm too.
     
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    "We estimate that a total of 12 million consumers are playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 for an average of 10 hours per week on the two platforms' respective networks, and the continued enjoyment of this game (along with an estimated 6 million Halo online players, 3 million EA Sports players, and 5 million players playing other games, such as Battlefield, Red Dead Redemption, Left 4 Dead and Grand Theft Auto) has sucked the available time away from what otherwise would be spent playing newly purchased games," he said.


    Why doesnt he name WOW ? i thought that was the biggest online game around ?
     

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    Maybe because people already pay to play WoW?
     
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    Cuz they already get money from that!
     
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    how about other games that you dont pay for. i think this guy mainly looked at console titles tbh.
     
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    He's absolutely right.

    If people are playing MW2 as much as we all know they are, they're not buying and playing new games. That's just how it works.

    So the companies have two options. They can either figure out a way to make the multiplayer games pay for themselves, or they keep selling newer games.

    But no one buys the newer ones, because they're playing the older ones, so sales suffer.
     
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    totally agree..i keep playing STAR TREK ONLINE..was thinking about buying CONAN too..well i bought it last year and played for a while so i know how game is..but just last night i thought: "hey, but iam playing STAR TREK, dont have time for CONAN"..so no other online gaming to me..well yes i bought that tango down game but i dont play it since i bought it..for 2 days?

    STAR TREK is doing to me, wonder what WoW is doing to others.
     
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