MSI: Radeon RX Vega needs a lot of power

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  1. Exascale

    Exascale Banned

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    Whats your point? GP102 is a 250W part. Big Vega is 300W but it has features like P100(16GB HBM2, ECC) and also has somewhat stripped down DP perf like GP102, so it is filling the role of two completely different Nvidia GPUs.

    If your machine doesnt need a ton of DP performance, then Vega is the obvious choice.

    For gaming, itll use 50W more than GP102 but if youre buying a massive GPU like GP102 or big Vega, i dont think 50W is a dealbreaker, especially since it should outperform GP102 based on its specs.

    Big Vega is a very versatile chip that will be in machine learning focused supercomputers, servers, workstations and consumer desktops and its a fraction of the cost of either of Nvidias competing products for most applications. We will have to see how they price the consumer big Vega.

    I imagine that there will be several petascale systems using Epyc and Vega in the works very soon.
     
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    When is the time we'll actually know more and AMD will make a proper presentation for it?
     
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    The history repeats itself. AMD/ATI is way back from Nvidia in terms of performance/ power draw/ heat. Is it the "samsung's low performance and low quality GPU chips" , or is it the "AMD's card design engineers" , or both reasons? Anyways what is happening is always bad for customers who are forced to go with Nvidia, because of the performance/ power draw/ heat differences between AMD/Nvidia.
     
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    Performance/per money is always on AMD side. I don't agree with "forced to go to nVidia" :S No offense but really, how is anyone forced? You wanted the fastest card, that was nVidia. You got one. But there are users that don't need that and can choose. Most people actually. :)
     

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    How exactly are they way far back? Epyc and Vega are both extremely competetive with Intel and Nvidias products that cost SEVERAL TIMES more.
     
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    I love what Ryzen is offering in the CPU market but it's far from the truth that AMD are offering massively better perf/$ on the GPU side. Besides the 480/580 beating the 1060 for perf/$ in most new titles, it comes with the caveat that it's only a little cheaper (and for the massive back catalogue of DX11 games the 1060 would be better). For every other GPU, it's a case of AMD offering a cheaper alternative that offers a corresponding decrease in performance. 560 is a bit cheaper than 1050? It's a good bit worse too. 570 is better than a 1050ti? Yeah, and it's about the same amount more expensive. What you've basically got between AMD and Nvidia is a complete product line with different offerings to cover all performance and price level - there's no clear 1060 performance for 1050 price winner.

    Will vega offer 1080ti performance for 1080 price? That definitely remains to be seen.
     

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