Yeah but we also know the reasons why AMD's Tflops don't equal Nvidia's in game performance and Vega's changes were supposed to remedy most of those issues (architecture balance/drivers/etc). I still personally think the top end Vega will trade blows in various games with the Ti, especially at higher resolutions. I just don't know if the year and 3+ months of architecture design that Vega has over Pascal justifies what would essentially be a tie. I'm kind of on the fence when I think Volta will launch. I assumed it wouldn't be until 2018 because I thought GV100 was going to be delayed.. but it's pretty clear that GV100 is going to be shipping ~Q3. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBJY_f8XoAAbaZA.jpg - they already have them shipping to select partners in test servers. So now I'm thinking Nvidia might just move the launch of Volta up to sometime this year. I don't think they'll put out a 600mm2 card, but if they did put out a ~400mm2 GTX1180 @ 180w with 10-15% more performance than the 1080Ti (Kind of like the 1080 to the 980Ti) - it would definitely hurt Vega sales. AMD would have to wait for a 7nm refresh of Vega(20). Problem is Nvidia is also moving to 7nm next year but they are using TSMC's process which is rumored to be 6 months ahead of Samsung/GFs in terms of full production. So I'm not quite sure how that will play out or what Nvidia would even launch at 7nm ~August 2018 timeframe. IDK, things are definitely going to get interesting for AMD though. Especially when Navi rolls around, which I think is going to use a similar paradigm to multi-core design as Epyc/TR is. Multiple smaller dies connected by infinity fabric. How they will do the scheduling/memory management, idk, HBCC maybe? But it's definitely going to be cool - but won't be around till 2019.