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MSI: Radeon RX Vega needs a lot of power

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Over at some Dutch forums an MSI Marketing Director Eric Van Beurden made a bit of a slip of the tongue. In a reaction (written in Dutch) he commended on the specs of the Radeon RX Vega. ...

    MSI: Radeon RX Vega needs a lot of power
     
  2. Silva

    Silva Master Guru

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    If in a vacuum it would be alright...but comparing it to Nvidia, I hope that bitch performs better than a 1080ti or AMD lost, again...
     
  3. Romulus_ut3

    Romulus_ut3 Master Guru

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    This is disappointing to say the least. It'll surely not surpass GTX 1080 Ti in gaming performance, and it'll draw way more power than the competition. Meh.
     
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    vazup Master Guru

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    Doesnt the 1080 ti draw something like 400w when under load?
     

  5. BlueRay

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    If this is true then I'll pass on Vega. More power means more heat and more electricity which means expensive bills in the long run. And I hate both heat and bills. That being said I hope they will at least deliver some respectful performance. Nvidia became the Intel of GPUs and I don't like it. We all know how it ends for consumers.
     
  6. Denial

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    Sub 300.

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  7. Only Intruder

    Only Intruder Maha Guru

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    And how have you come to that assessment? Can you show me the source of your information please?

    It's like the Fury X, it actually has more power than the 980 ti but it turns out that under particularly serial workloads, the GPU tends to be starved of work and performs badly.

    From what we know of Vega, most of the bottlenecks in Fiji have been ironed out and if polaris performance is anything to judge by, it should perform rather well or at the very least, comparatively to the 1080 range.

    It's still too early to draw conclusions, all we know from this news statement is that Vega needs a lot of power, it doesn't tell us how efficiently Vega is going to use that power, if it's like the Fury X, then yes, it quite possibly could be disappointing and conversely if it shows similar performance scaling to polaris, we might be in for a treat.

    Tl;dr wait for reviews before making snap conclusions.
     
  8. Denial

    Denial Ancient Guru

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    Not that I agree with him but he's probably judging the performance on the several video's over the past 6 months that show Vega performing between 1080/1080Ti levels.

    Also, slight update from the MSI guy is a continuation of his posts:

    In case people didn't know either, multiple sites are listing the WC Vega FE edition at 375w and the AC at 300w.

    https://exxactcorp.com/index.php/product/prod_detail/2565
    https://exxactcorp.com/index.php/product/prod_detail/2566

    Which is where the rumors of it being relatively high power came from.
     
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  9. JamesSneed

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    I'm not sure what is disappointing, I mean whats a lot of power 250 watts? Really not one iota of facts here so I wouldn't be disappointing. If it uses 1080 ti power and is a bit faster you probably wouldn't be disappointed. So who the heck knows if this is bad or good.
     
  10. jose2016

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    Perhaps:
    Vega 375w performance like gtx 1080ti.
    Vega 300w performance like gtx 1080.
    Vega 225w performance like gtx 1070.

    Until we have them, we will not know.
     

  11. JamesSneed

    JamesSneed Master Guru

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    Interesting, AMD's TDP ratings on the 580's were really close to actual wattage draw so if that is the case here, yeah those are needing some serious power.
     
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    More like 375W Vega is just an unlocked TDP one because it can take it with the water cooling. Just like the Fury X which could suck in almost 400 under Furmark, but nowhere close in normal use.
     
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    Oh boy it has started :D
     
  14. SirDremor

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    Nice, very nice.
     
  15. bigfutus

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    Oh mah gawd hype!!!
     

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  17. Agent-A01

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    If it's anything like polaris we can expect poor perf/watt compared to pascal.
    Example RX580 vs 1060 6GB uses 40% more power for the same performance.

    Also despite having higher theoretical Tflops the 580 has over 1060 it still performs the same averaged across many titles.

    Vega really needs to destroy the Ti to have any saving grace if rumors that it's a power hog are true.
     
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    Most pre overclocked board partner are in the 300W+ range ( 318W for the MSI ).. But the " standard " version, at least in games are under ( 280W ) ...

    Now max board power ( based on the 2x 8 pin PCI epxress+75W PCI express ), dont forcibly mean the card use 300W+ ( 350W in the case of a 2x 8pin connectors ... ( 150x2 + 75W from the slot )

    The MI25 is allready rated at 300W..
     
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    Guess I'll just keep my OG TITANs in Quad SLI. I was looking for an "all AMD" system on the horizon...
     
  20. sammarbella

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    Tflops are not equal to gaming performance, that's the AMD problem.We didn't see FPS counter for a good reason in hype videos lately...

    As we know Nvidia TFlops give more gaming performance than AMD Tflops:

    GTX 980ti has 5.63 TFs and Fury X has 8.6 TFs.

    GTX 1080TI delivers 11.4 TFs, Vega Frontier 13 TFs, Vega Gaming in July/August (?), vega 56 11 TFs, Vega 64 13 TFs.

    Let's see AMD drivers, i expect the worst.
     

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