Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Dec 8, 2020.
In china they dont want to pay 2k € for card so they just take it for free.
Ehm, MSI execs run a scalping company moving stock there
STOP THE COUNT.
It's high time to attach a GPS tracking device to each 3090. I suppose those cards are lost forever in some mining company. Enslaved. Denied to shine in glorious PCMR builds....
What I was thinking. Would be pretty hard to sell them online without being detected. Would be very attractive to a mining farm though.
...and approximately 1000 pounds..quite heavy
Reward is in money...hmm... just pay me in graphic cards and I will be in scalpel heaven in no time...
Not sorry for MSI at all. Sorry for those people who maybe wanted to grab a 3090 and now have to wait longer again.
People should not be buying 3090 anyday at this point, 3080 Ti is coming with identical performance for 500 dollars less very soon
3090 was the biggest cashgrab in years, worse perf/value than 2080 Ti - which had terrible perf/value to begin with
In other thread, you just made argument based on marginal use case applicable to 1 in 5000 gamers.
24GB is great value by same argument logic. There are people who need that VRAM more than performance. And by same logic, card is great value for everyone, because it has great value for some.
Tell me usecases then, It's a consumer GPU not a Quadro
Nvidia made this for gamers, to milk them dry
Could easily afford one, but I'm not stupid, thats probably why I have money in the first place
Would never pay more than double price for 10% perf lol
Imagine the price-drop on used 3090s when 3080 Ti launch. Instantly -500 dollars.
+ Refreshes by summer, or shortly after.
Milking season has begun.
I might get milked too, but my GPU sales in the past weeks will cover this.
Probably getting 3080 Ti or refreshes in Q3-Q4.
And 100% getting 4000 series on launch. 4080 or better. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.
There is a msi 3090 surge on ebay
These have been stolen to run a mining farm and not to be resold as the S/N would be tracked back eventually.
Damn. All that money talk, and bad math. Now I remember. Yeah, sorry, forgot you literally in few hours. (You are that scalper kid.)
3090 price is $1500+
expected 3080 Ti/Super/whatever price is $1000+.
Do you really expect price of 3090 to become equal to price of 3080 Ti/... ?
You would not pay double for 10% higher performance? Like step from 3080 to 3090?
Well, 3080 Ti/... will deliver 5% higher performance than 3080 and will cost ~50% more. Almost same boat while having less VRAM which happens to be selling point for big portion of people who actually bought 3090.
You are literally part of problem which enthusiast can't deal with within limits of legal system. And you brag about it here. Don't you have mirror?
While we don't know if the 3080TI launches yet, I tend to agree, if it does the 3090 will be an even worse buy than it is now, imho.
But there's people who just want to have the card that they chose for themselves... and in such regard, I'd like everybody to get the card they want, what card that might be.
Nah but I expect that nobody will even consider 3090 when 3080 Ti hits, which means that 3090 owners instantly lose 500 bucks, since gaming perf will be identical.
3080 Ti won't be just 5% faster than 3080, it will be pointless then.
It will get pretty much identical performance to 3090 with 4GB VRAM less. 20GB VRAM is already overkill and those 4GB VRAM will do you NOTHING on 3090.
By the time 24GB VRAM is needed for ANYTHING GAMING RELATED, the GPU on 3090 will be considered pure trash.
The only way to justify a 3090 purchase, is if you got the card on release and plan to keep it for 2+ years, if you are still waiting for a 3090, cancel that order and get 3080 Ti instead. Or buy 3080 now and get 90% of the performance for 800-1000 dollars less.
3080 Ti launches for sure. 3090 will never be able to compete with 6900XT priced 500 dollars below. Nvidia needs to fill the PRICE GAP between 3080 and 3090.
We will probably also see 3070 Ti with 10GB on a 320 bit bus, even more cutdown than 3080, in Q1. Nvidia have plenty of room for cards in their lineup, and will adjust accordingly.
3090 is nothing but a Titan in disguise, should have kept that branding, milking branding.
Nvidia said 3080 was their flagship card for a reason, during the launch event. Never said 3090 was, it's more a milking card. Should have said that, and got some laughs.
I would have considered 3090 if Huang called it Milking Edition. Especially if it came with a Tshirt.
3090 is by far the worst performance per value card we have seen, EVER. Because it does not have ANY prosumer features, it's simply a gaming card sold for 1500 dollars. You literally pay for a load of VRAM that 99.9% won't be using anyway. Not even in 5 years when the card is trash.
3090 is the definition of a milking card. It's almost funny that some people bought it. I really hope that most of the buyers didnt take any loans to be able to afford it. Because some people did just that and are now PAYING OFF with interrests LOL! Ends up paying 2000+ dollars in the end.
Thief could be ghost of that previous president who jumped from the roof..
Perhaps that's user error then. It's pretty hard to kill electronics these days. I haven't had the best experience with Gigabyte, but not the worst either. My biggest gripe with them is their board revisions. Their 1.0 and sometimes 1.1 releases are usually very solid products but then in future revisions they start to cut corners. They're usually silent about such changes.
As for software, who actually uses that bundled bloatware, regardless of brand? Last time I used an OEM's software must've been 2011, and I didn't keep it for very long.
You say that as though buying a warranty is obvious. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here wondering why I would buy one. As far as I'm concerned, modifications like overclocking still void the warranty. As long as the product is running in ideal conditions, it should easily outlast the warranty.
Unless you mod the firmware they can't prove that you overclocked, besides, worst case is crashing unless the card or chip is broke to begin with
I'm talking about their firmwares not their windows software, however most of their RGB stuff (PROBABLY ALL) needs their software running at all times, to stay on a certain color (or kept OFF).
I seriously hope that MSI will somehow cover their loses, by insurance or something. This is terrible news for them.
I have had a bunch of MSI hardware over the year and i wish them the best in their recovery, as a company and for their employees.
I don´t know about their business practices but their cards are the best around, in my opinion of course.