MSI AB / RTSS development news thread

What was the reason of experimenting with it on your side BTW? Disadvantage of new desending selection priority is that it can make overlay visible in applications using D3D rendering pattern similar to ReShade 5.6 (i.e. create both D3D10 and D3D11 devices at the same time). It is not typical for games but some applciations with hardware accelerated GUI may create such context and emulated D3D devices for 3D API interoperability (e.g. for CUDA or Direct2D usage purposes). For example Cinebench R23 uses such pattern, but you can simple exclude them from hooking like before.

 

Just received my new toy, which will be powered by RTSS in one of my rigs. Lamptron HC070 1024x600@60Hz IPS with RTSS OverlayEditor's mini overlay layout displayed there with DesktopOverlayHost. Probably I'll upgrade DesktopOverlayHost functionality a bit to improve usability on such class of devices.

 

Couple posts above I mentioned that I’ll be brainstorming DesktopOverlayHost functionality upgrades aimed to improve usability on the systems with mini-display placed inside the PC case. The first batch of such tiny but useful GUI improvements is on the way. Technically such setup is just a traditional multimonitor environment, but it has some specifics. The specifics are related to tiny mini-display size and display location inside the case, which makes it pretty inconvenient and hard to adjust something on mini-display with a mouse cursor. In my specific case it is physically impossible to use mouse because I have multiple PCs and the one with mounted mini-display is not located on my table. So the following DesktopOverlayHost enhancements are aimed to address that:

- Now you may use DOH tray icon menu to move host window to any display and maximize it there. So all window location adjustments are done on primary display.
- Advanced properties of DOH are also displayed on the primary display now, if you invoke the properties from application tray icon.

 

A bit of offtopic related to RTSS development. As I mentioned above, currently I'm working on DesktopOverlayHost improvements related to RTSS + DesktopOverlayHost combo usage in setups with monitoring mini-display mounted inside PC case. I purchased Lamptron HC070 special for that purpose.
However, I'd like to warn those who decide to buy such mini display devices from this manufacturer. Device is priced absolutely ridiculously, it costs about 120 € in Europe. Our local prices are even higher, it costed me approximately 160 € here. Alternately, you may simply order DIY kits from China and get similar display + controller 2-3 times cheaper (but you'll need to wait for delivery longer and create mounting yourself). Lamptorn are partially validating such pricing by software bundle, they promote themselves as AIDA partners and claim to inlclude full AIDA64 license (which starts from $60 depending on software edition) in their software bundle. However, I was puzzled to see that they bundle rather old AIDA64 build from 2019 and software key they provide do not allow upgrading AIDA to the latest version. Which maked me doubt that probably they sell pirated version of software.
I contacted my old good friend Tamas who created AIDA to clarify it and sadly he confirmed that AIDA keys they resell are illegal. So think twice if you plan get such device from Lamptron and hope to get a legal copy of AIDA in a bundle. It is a bit shocking for me to see such thing from German hardware manufacturer. Shame on you, Lamptron.

 

Nope, sorry.

 

A few more improvements in DesktopOverlayHost on the way:

- Now DesktopOverlayHost locks the window position, tracks display mode change events and patches monitor relative position on monitor coordinate space changes. This allows keeping overlay displayed in expected position on the secondary monitor even when fullscreen game changes the primary monitor resolution (which may cause changes in secondary monitor coordinate spaces and may cause the windows displayed there to be moved without such special locking feature)
- Added new "Suspend rendering in idle" option to DesktopOverlayHost properties. You may enable it to save some power when DesktopOverlayHost is displaying overlay on desktop and no other 3D applications are running. When new option is enabled, DesktopOverlayHost will reduce its' own framerate to 1 FPS in idle (i.e. when no other 3D applications are running or when DesktopOverlayHost is a foreground application) but restore the full 30 FPS framerate when you launch some 3D application and switch to it.

 

No, it is intended to be topmost and displayed on top of all other desktop windows. It is not impractical, it is the way desktop overlay is intended to be shown. There is an option for passing mouse input through the window, which allows you to click your browser under overlay in your specific case but still see DesktopOverlayHost displayed on top of it.
Also, no, there are no missing files and you can build it yourself. RTSSHooksTypes.h is inside SDK's Include folder and D3D11.h is DirectX SDK component header, which you obviously need to compile a project performing Direct11 rendering.

 

Understood. Ok, I'll add dedicated option for toggling topmost state (Show window always on top):

 

Some useful info for those who experience crashes on startup in the latest ForzaHorizon 5 update with RTSS on. New game update do not tolerate Kernel32.dll LoadLibrary hooks and it won't launch if you use any application hooking that API. This applies to wide range of system applications starting from Microsoft's own ProcessExplorer, different security apps and ending by RTSS (if you applied some specific settigns to it yourself)
RTSS is configured NOT to hook LoadLibrary by default (with application detection level set to Low, which is default setting), however it will start more deep hooking when you set application detection level to High there. So simply revert it to default "Low" settings to get it fixed. But the rest affected apps like ProcessExplorer need to be closed completely.

 

New RTSS v7.3.4 Beta 10 Build 27526 is available for download. RTSS itself didn't change since the previous beta, the same source code has been recompiled to increment build number. All improvements are related to DesktopOverlayHost, built-in profiles and installer. Full changes list includes the following:

- Bundled DesktopOverlayHost tool has been upgraded to v1.3.0. New version provides multiple changes and new features aimed to improve DesktopOverlayHost usability in multimonitor environment in general and in specific case of multimonitor environment when secondary mini-display is mounted inside the PC case and used to display RTSS overlay with DesktopOverlayHost.
- Slightly reorganized DesktopOverlayHost properties window, "Start with windows" option is moved there from tray icon context menu.
- Direct3D11 rendering backend is selected by default now
- Now you may use tray icon menu to move the window to any display and maximize it there. So all window location adjustments are done on primary display, which is expecially convenient when using DesktopOverlayHost with mini-display mounted inside the PC case
- Now you may use '1'...'0' keys when DesktopOverlayHost window is focused to move it to displays 1..10 or 'W' to maximize it
- Properties of DesktopOverlayHost window are also displayed on the primary display now, if you invoke the properties from application tray icon
- Added new "Lock multimonitor window position option" to advanced properties. When this option is enabled DesktopOverlayHost locks the window position, tracks display mode change events and patches monitor relative position on monitor coordinate space changes. This allows keeping overlay displayed in expected position on the secondary monitor even when fullscreen game changes the primary monitor resolution (which may cause changes in secondary monitor coordinate spaces and may cause the windows displayed there to be moved without such special locking feature)
- Added new "Show window always on top" option to properties window
- Added new "Suspend rendering in idle" option to properties window. You may enable it to save some power when DesktopOverlayHost is displaying overlay on desktop and no other 3D applications are running. When new option is enabled, DesktopOverlayHost will reduce its' own framerate to 1 FPS in idle (i.e. when no other 3D applications are running or when DesktopOverlayHost is a foreground application) but restore the full 30 FPS framerate when you launch some 3D application and switch to it
- It is no longer possible to launch multiple instances of DesktopOverlayHost. Now it will display properties of running application instance on attempt to launch the secondary instance of DesktopOverlayHost
- Now DesktopOverlayHost's executable file is located in the root of RTSS installation folder, it is digitally signed and intaller adds shortcut to it to start menu. Please keep it and mind and ensure that you launch correct version of DesktopOverlayHost if you update RTSS without uninstalling the previous version, because in this case two copies of DesktopOverlayHost will be located inside your RTSS subfolders
- High application detection level is now restricted for ForzaHorizon 5 via built-in application profile. More details on this issue in this post



Download it here:

https://download-eu2.guru3d.com/rtss/[Guru3D.com]-RTSSSetup734Beta10Build27526.rar

Stay tuned!

 

I don’t plan to purchase Steam deck and provide any features specific to it, sorry.