MS Flight Simulator (2020): the 2021 PC graphics performance benchmark review

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Mar 5, 2021.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

    Messages:
    40,821
    Likes Received:
    9,211
    GPU:
    AMD | NVIDIA
  2. HybOj

    HybOj Master Guru

    Messages:
    211
    Likes Received:
    143
    GPU:
    ASUS GTX 970 DCmini
    Hi, without the original results, I cant compare the difference and thus the article looses a lot of its potential value.
    Id like to see what progress has been actually made.
     
    JAVI likes this.
  3. ChisChas

    ChisChas Member Guru

    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    43
    GPU:
    ASUS Strix 3080 OC
    Hilbert, you're not thinking of changing careers I hope................Lovely looking game, I guess flying a smaller & more nimble aircraft would be a bit more fun? But your vid certainly proves that landing is a great deal trickier than taking off, I was worried you would run out of fuel
     
  4. GREGIX

    GREGIX Master Guru

    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    139
    GPU:
    6800XT Merc
    Hm...
    still don't know it is right moment for me to jump from 8086k@5.1Ghz (6c/12t) to 9900k/kf.
    There may be some gains, but I am afraid I will loose in silicon lottery, and IMC will be weaker, and/or OC too. Especially when I am on air cooler only...
     

  5. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

    Messages:
    40,821
    Likes Received:
    9,211
    GPU:
    AMD | NVIDIA
    As mentioned several times in the review, there's virtually no difference between now and then. Airports seem a notch faster though. This article is basically testing the move to Ryzen 9 5950X as a benchmark. You can check the CPU differences as listed in the chart. Look at it as our 2021 update with close to 40 graphics cards + additional frametime results etc.
     
    alanm likes this.
  6. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    15,472
    Likes Received:
    4,485
    GPU:
    Aorus RX580 XTR 8GB
    It would be worth retesting when the game gets dx12 support. Im sorry but this was a waste of time.
     
    Kosmoz likes this.
  7. DannyD

    DannyD Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,066
    Likes Received:
    1,552
    GPU:
    MSI 2080ti
    I remember a few years back we would always get a performance uplift after every few drivers, maybe just slight but nonetheless it was still there.
    These days ziltch, diddly-squat, nada de nada.:)
     
  8. Kosmoz

    Kosmoz Member Guru

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    72
    GPU:
    GTX 1080
    This game has pathetic optimization, no matter how gorgeous it looks...

    GTX 1080 gets 41 fps in 1080p and an RTX 3090 53 fps! Haha, what a joke!

    It needs DX12 and DLSS like fish need water.
     
    JAVI likes this.
  9. TimmyP

    TimmyP Master Guru

    Messages:
    609
    Likes Received:
    27
    GPU:
    RTX 3070
    Actually the optimization is fine. Shouldnt make uninformed, biased comments based off speculation.
     
  10. bobnewels

    bobnewels Member Guru

    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    108
    GPU:
    RTX 3080
    Thanks for the review. Tried the game myself on RTX 3080 and uninstalled it ,within the hour. Not a game for me, not enjoyable at all for me and bad FPS . It is sad that Microsoft can not put out this game to run at least CPY full bore multi threaded, I think they should know how to set things up to work at it's best on there own operating system
     
    JAVI and Kosmoz like this.

  11. alanm

    alanm Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,149
    Likes Received:
    2,311
    GPU:
    Asus 2080 Dual OC
    Too early to write it off. Its a WIP (work in progress) with DX12 later coming to the game. As to how that may improve performance remains to be seen.
     
  12. bobnewels

    bobnewels Member Guru

    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    108
    GPU:
    RTX 3080
    This is true , always to early to write it off. I discovered though gameplay for me is not there or not interesting to me, especially with terrible FPS. Now I know there are people who would only play this game and praise the hell out of it. Which is perfectly fine also.
     
    DannyD likes this.
  13. Mufflore

    Mufflore Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    12,696
    Likes Received:
    1,291
    GPU:
    Aorus 3090 Xtreme
  14. Kosmoz

    Kosmoz Member Guru

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    72
    GPU:
    GTX 1080
    I pity horse blinders wearers like you... The proof is clear, in front of your eyes in every test, article and benchmark, this one here included and yet some people like you can't believe (cognitive dissonance?) or won't admit (brainwashed fanboi?). The math does not lie, especially in this case.

    What exactly do you think you can gain to tell everyone your way of viewing reality when it's not true? Wake the **** up!
     
  15. alanm

    alanm Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,149
    Likes Received:
    2,311
    GPU:
    Asus 2080 Dual OC
    From the review:
    "We stated this often; for a flight-sim 30 FPS is sufficient due to the slow-paced nature of the simulation, this is not a game where you move around a lot."
     

  16. CPC_RedDawn

    CPC_RedDawn Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    8,535
    Likes Received:
    881
    GPU:
    6800XT Nitro+ SE
    I would love too see them implement DX12 or Vulkun and also something like mesh shaders and see how the game performs then?

    Anyone here know how easy (or hard) it would be to implement mesh shaders into a game?
     
    JAVI likes this.
  17. kakiharaFRS

    kakiharaFRS Master Guru

    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    170
    GPU:
    MSI Gaming X 1080ti
    keep your 8086k
    pretty much everything DX11 or older only cares about clock speed I even have games on which I limited the thread use to 2 (1 core) or 4 (2 cores) simply because they run better like that as proven live with MSI afterburner+rivatuner onscreen frametimes/fps graphs they only care about clockspeed, more than 1-4 cores confuses them and introduces micro-freezes, a lot of older games/engines still hate multi-threading btw (I'm customising every game with process lasso now)

    you are right to be afraid of the silicon lottery judging from my personal experience with 9900k
    my 1st one was bought on release as a tray OEM, runs 5.0@1.28v 5.1@1.46v kind of stable (for gaming ok not encoding etc...)
    my 2nd one was a retail box bought new in 2019, it runs like crap it barely does it's stock 4.7Ghz and watts/temp go crazy if I attempt 5.0..it doesn't boot unless I put 1.4v and then uses like 240watts...really bad bin
    the good one runs at 85-95°C @5.1Ghz or 80-85°C @5.0Ghz with an AIO or custom loop water cooling not sure an air cooling would do well, probably would be ok but loud
     
  18. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    10,313
    Likes Received:
    3,705
    GPU:
    GTX 1080ti
    CPC_RedDawn likes this.
  19. warezme

    warezme Master Guru

    Messages:
    212
    Likes Received:
    26
    GPU:
    Evga 970GTX Classified
    With only 9 frame difference in Ultra at 4K between a 2080ti and and RTX3090, seems the game is extremely bottled necked somewhere.
     
    JAVI likes this.
  20. hawk7000

    hawk7000 Member

    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    11
    GPU:
    EVGA 1080Ti FTW3
    I think the issue at hand is that this is not a game, and does not live by game standards.
    Flight sims are pretty notorious for delivering poor framerates, and while clearly one would like them to perform better... when this one delivers about the framerates people have come to expect from other flightsims, it does beg to question if it's purely poor optimization or if some of the simulations are just difficult to scale.

    If it was a game, it could just ignore the simulation side of things and could almost certainly deliver much better framerates for this type of graphical fidelity (I do not think *that* is the issue at all), but it would change its very nature.
     

Share This Page