MOD mobility X600 128 to FireGL! help

Discussion in 'RivaTuner Advanced Discussion forum' started by samov, Jul 2, 2005.

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What driver version worked 4 U

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  1. 7.93

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  2. 8.082 or 8.083

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  3. 8.163

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  4. above 8.163

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  1. legolasgleaf

    legolasgleaf Member Guru

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    And the most important, what do you choose matte or glossy screen?
    Greetings.
     
  2. AlecRyben

    AlecRyben Ancient Guru

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    matte is better for text, glossy is better for graphics/video
     
  3. legolasgleaf

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    All professional notebooks for 3d, have a matte screen.
    But this model comes in Europe only with a glossy screen, in USA, have the two versions.
     
  4. samov

    samov Master Guru

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    yep... i've got the glossy one.. (i'm from europe)

    the laptop is superb, build quality, performance , EVERYTHING... a BIG improvement over my old zd8000. WEIGHTS JUST 3.2 kg... :D (a little over the 15.4 class.... not bad HP not bad at all ) and THE BEST LCD LID i've ever seen.. RIGID and absolutely NO ripples... ( on par with IBM's )

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    ati's 8.323 are out now.. no patch script... as expected...

    but copying ati o gl gl . dll over to my old 8.293 mod seems to do the trick...

    also 3dsmax driver 8.323 provides the OPENGL driver for 3dsmax... ( they haven't switched to directx like nvidia has )

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    moded my x1600 to v5200... :D performance went up through the ROOF :D
     
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  5. legolasgleaf

    legolasgleaf Member Guru

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    The laptop weights 3,4 kg.
    The laptop comes with any bag, o backpack (I prefer) or mouse?
    Thank you.
     
  6. samov

    samov Master Guru

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    nope ... it weights 3.2... :D i went to my local butcher shop... :D and weighted the thing ... ( they have some nice high tech electronic counters... )

    nope... it comes just like any business laptop... in a BOX... :D

    superb laptop... no words
     
  7. legolasgleaf

    legolasgleaf Member Guru

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    What about the performance? CPU (what cpu do yo have?) and graphics...
    What bag do you use?
    Thank you.
     
  8. samov

    samov Master Guru

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    i have the

    nx9420

    Intel C2D T7400 2.16ghz
    Ati x1600 256mb
    17' 1680x1050 Brightview
    2 gigs 667 Kingston DDR2
    120 gb 5400 NCQ hdd

    performance is remarkable... compared to my Intel 650 3.4 ghz 2gigs ram... rendering the same scene, it's twice as fast (11:28 vs 5:11 same scene in 3DS max 9).

    it's cool and quiet... nice hardware design and build quality.


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    ATI - Powerplay issue when closing lid... HELP

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=2101380

    i keep my laptop on most of the time WITH the lid closed.

    i also keep the Powerplay setting on Max Battery, i don't need the extra power... i like my laptop quiet.

    THE PROBLEM IS:

    When i close the lid on my laptop the driver switches to the bios defaults 390 core 250 mem instead of the max battery settings of 209 core 135 mem...


    ANY SOLUTION?!
     
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  9. legolasgleaf

    legolasgleaf Member Guru

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    Is very difficult to say something about your problem without have this hardware, but maybe you can change to other program to change the settings for save battery...
    One question more, this time about the appearance of your laptop, what is the exact colour of nx9420? blue or black? I saw a lot of pictures, but looks like blue in ones, and black in others...

    Can you answer what is the colour and take a photo?
    How much is your computer? When you purchased it? (Where are you from?)

    I'm very interesting in this laptop, and I want to buy them (the only thing that I don't like of it, is the size... because I prefer the 15.4", but is too difficult to found a laptop with WSXGA+ in 15.4", my old laptop of 15.4" had it, the great Asus M6V, today, a little bit old).

    Your comments will be very appreciated.

    Thank you.
     
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  10. samov

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  11. legolasgleaf

    legolasgleaf Member Guru

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  12. samov

    samov Master Guru

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    i'm from europe...

    you can get it at almost any hp dealer.

    the color is a deep VERY - DARK GRAY ... it's not pure black (like IBMs) but is really nice... you'll like the finish on it.

    the lid is the most impressive part... pushing it REALLY hard an i have NO ripples... the lcd lid is very rigid.
     
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  13. samov

    samov Master Guru

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    here are some test on my x1600 to v5200 mod in win xp 32:

    "normal" x1600

    3dsmax-04 Viewset
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    Test Weight Frames DLB Visual Double Frame Buffer Depth Stencil
    # Per Sec Sec ID Buffer Red Green Blue Alpha Buffer Buffer
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    1 5.50 7.51 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    2 5.50 6.32 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    3 5.50 6.01 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    4 5.50 5.07 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    5 17.00 16.9 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    6 5.50 7.85 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    7 5.50 4.51 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    8 5.50 4.82 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    9 5.50 3.16 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    10 17.00 10.3 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    11 5.50 12.4 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    12 5.50 8.96 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    13 5.50 8.45 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    14 5.50 7.49 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    3dsmax-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 8.252


    firegl mod v5200

    3dsmax-04 Viewset
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    Test Weight Frames DLB Visual Double Frame Buffer Depth Stencil
    # Per Sec Sec ID Buffer Red Green Blue Alpha Buffer Buffer
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    1 5.50 16.9 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    2 5.50 10.7 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    3 5.50 11.0 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    4 5.50 6.61 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    5 17.00 39.3 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    6 5.50 16.5 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    7 5.50 7.93 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    8 5.50 9.52 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    9 5.50 4.43 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    10 17.00 22.4 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    11 5.50 32.6 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    12 5.50 27.6 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    13 5.50 25.1 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
    14 5.50 11.7 N/A 5 True 8 8 8 8 24 8
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    3dsmax-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 17.03


    the exact same score was obtained on a nw8440 ( a "real" firegl)
     
  14. samov

    samov Master Guru

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    new atioglgl build from ati in the new FireGL_Win2KXP_44078.exe ( 8.323.1 )

    still no script for the new driver but, you can copy the atioglgl from the new driver ... to the old 8.293 patched one (overwriting that old one) and use it from there....

    first impressions... 3ds max performance increased quite a bit... but still not on par with directx...

    some screens...

    [​IMG]



    legolasgleaf:

    1. download the ati firegl 8.293 from ati's site
    2. use huangyanhao's script... to patch it
    3. use these inf's instead of the one from the driver... do a driver update... it will ask for a file during the update... point to the patched ati2mtag.sys

    the inf...

    http://rapidshare.com/files/21247707/CX_36415.inf.jpg.html
     
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  15. legolasgleaf

    legolasgleaf Member Guru

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    Samov, Works atioglgl of 8.353 in 8.293? Worth it? It increased 3.233.1?

    Greetings.
     

  16. samov

    samov Master Guru

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    yes... it works... is it worth it?!... i don't know... i don't see any improvement.... :D
     
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  17. legolasgleaf

    legolasgleaf Member Guru

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    But you said, that the before version (8.323.1) increase the performance quite a bit, or were only the first impressions?

    This time, isn't the same?

    Thank you.
     
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  18. samov

    samov Master Guru

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    i was talking in comparison to directx... as in... not enough improvement to beat directx...

    anyway... am almost done with xp...

    running vista x64 here... :D

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    1. Directx faster than opengl.
    2. directx in windows xp speed = directx vista 64 speed (almost)
    3. no mod for vista 64 (well... i don't need one anymore... max is directx)

    :D ... response for the post below
     
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  19. legolasgleaf

    legolasgleaf Member Guru

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    Sorry I don't understand so much English, I'm lost, I don't understand you.
    Please, if you could to reply with easy words.

    Almost done in xp????
    Had you obtain FireGl improvement in Vista x64?????

    Sorry for my horrible understanding and writting English.

    Greetings.

    By the way: Samov, do you use NHC (notebook hardware control) for undervolt the CPU? If you use it, what settings do you use? If not, it's incredible, how the noise and heat goes down (I don't know if I say it correctly).
     
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  20. jimmyjames

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    Hi,

    I tried to mode my ATi Mobility X1400 to FireGL in compliance with quoated post from Schoko (complete post here). I was success but I have only 11.75 points in SPECViewperf 10.0 in test Catia 1280x1024. I had 6.17 with original Lenovo ATi drivers. However it was only first time. When I started test later (after restart) I had only about 5.60 points! Before these driver I was trying driver from here. I had 19.40 point with it in the same test! However, the same situation again...later I had back about 6.17 points. I can't understand it. I completely removed old drivers (with DriverCleaner Pro) before instalation new driver. I have adjusted maximal performance in power managment. I was also trying to set "default" or "Catia" in CCC on tab "Workstation" (in mode Catia it was even worse). Don't anybody now why I have this problem?

    When I read other posts with moding other cards and also some instructions for this modding, I noticed that they often patch more files with RivaTuner than only one file like in Schoko's instruction. So, is this instruction complete or I must to patch also some other files?

    I'm writing it to Forum because I noticed that Schoko was there last in February so he is perhaps out from this Forum :( :(

    I'm sorry for my bad english :(

    Notebook ThinkPad R60 - UL1HRCF (C2D 1.83GHz, ATi Mobility X1400 (128MB+HyperMemory, chipset M54, ID7145), 1GB/667MHz, 120GB hard, 15" SXGA+)
     

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