Microsoft Xbox One console shown

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  1. Loobyluggs

    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    Yup.

    Two things I am wondering right now.

    1. How many 'hardcore' gamers want to buy something with lesser power than either the competition or, other platforms?

    2. How many 'regular' gamers have parents that would want to purchase something that is permanently connected to the internet, has a microphone always on, has a camera always on and can see in the dark.

    I know we're getting more and more accustomed to being under scrutiny anno 2013, but people's living rooms/family rooms should be private, no?

    That level of scrutiny I would reserve for prisoners, or people on suicide watch.

    Just 'one' rumor that the camera can be hacked remotely, or has been hacked, allowing remote control to view any the inside of any home with one of these devices; would end M$ forever.

    I'm taking bets at 1:1
     
  2. Silent_Takedown

    Silent_Takedown Master Guru

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    Well that's Halo finished for me. 'nuff said.
     
  3. Darren Hodgson

    Darren Hodgson Ancient Guru

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    The Xbox One can run games and movies offline, it only needs an internet connection when you install games (like PC ones do) and for online gameplay. There is talk of offloading A.I. and physics calculations to servers but I honestly don't think it would be practical except for games that are online already, i.e. multiplayer ones.

    As for the Xbox One being on all the time so you can speak to it to turn it on: there's one fix for that if you don't like the idea of it potentially monitoring everything you do and say: unplug the console from the mains (or pull the power plug out from the back of the console)!!!
     
  4. Loobyluggs

    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    Or just don't buy it and continue using the 360 because you already own one, or some other platform.

    Convergence has its place, and I wish they would leave attempts at high end gaming out of the equation.
     
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    volkov956 Ancient Guru

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    1. How many 'hardcore' gamers want to buy something with lesser power than either the competition or, other platforms? Most have no idea

    2. How many 'regular' gamers have parents that would want to purchase something that is permanently connected to the internet, has a microphone always on, has a camera always on and can see in the dark.
    They won't know till they get it or never know about some of the things

    Customer Ignorance nor willing to do research on products has shown time and time again you can sell them anything which Is probally what they will be able to do in the end

    Talk to people who own or are parents of people who use Consoles most have no idea at all
     
  6. Chillin

    Chillin Ancient Guru

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    Sheesh, the camera is not always on and the audio is looking for a single cue: Xbox On.

    And this is the easiest part to solve, it sounds like they will have options in the software on how you want to configure Kinect, I'm sure they will have the option to turn Kinect completely off when your console is off if you don't want the audio cue.

    And please, it's not like almost every laptop sold in the last few years doesn't have a built in webcam that can't also be hacked (and have been), yet I don't see the mass panic there.
     
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  7. The Chubu

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    Well, Sony could have gone all "Next-gen starts when we say it so" on Microsoft now that I've seen this "console" reveal...

    EDIT: BTW, that soundtrack is awesome.
     
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    Best games has been already made for PC, nintendo 8bit/16bit and playstation 1/2 =)
    We dont need this **** ;)
     
  9. Loobyluggs

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    It's unlikely a child would use a laptop, and laptops are typically on the move devices - more likely a tablet of some kind for the home, but I get your point.

    The only place the XBO is going to be is the living room/family room, and you need to realize the sanctity of this.
     
  10. Chillin

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    And every single relative of mine who does have kids has bought them laptops that go in the bedroom; I find that far more invasive. The living room, less so.

    Like I said, this a pointless scare campaign. You already have dozens of devices in your house ranging from Laptops to tablets down to your very phone that have cameras and audio and are always connected to the internet (especially phones).

    Like I said, there is no doubt going to be software on/off switch for the Kinect2 while powered down if you want; and if you are really paranoid, then just get a manual power switch.
     

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    Put a book in front of the camera? (If you still read real books)
     
  12. Chillin

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    EDIT: Nm, it's a mock up.
     
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    Most all the kids of parents I know have their own laptops of some sort for their own room or whereever and they seem to be used for gaming more than anything and kids aren't stupid about it either, some going as far as torrenting or modding their consoles before their 12. Even my 3 yr old grandaughter has a toddler one which when old enough will have a real one. My wife knows of a few who's kids have an Ipad, though I think that's pushing it as far as cost vs abuse as tablets tend to get tossed around a bit more.
     
  14. Neo Cyrus

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    Actually, several MS reps confirmed it is pretty much an always online console. Not just during installs. If it ends up not being that, it's because they changed their minds due to backlash, but last I checked they're going through with it.
     
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    This. It will not have any functionality if it is not validated every 24 hours but you can still play or do anything else offline within those 24 hours so technically it is not always online. It won't work without Kinect physically plugged in but will have "privacy features".

    Heh .. Securom in a box.
     
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    I love but hate at the same time the cloud capabilities and requirements for the Xbox One.

    The advantage is a big one at least, you can save on the cloud, some of the tasks of the console are on the cloud instead, and there's always new content out there!

    Disadvantages, seeing that you have to be online at least once a day to play the console is a huge one, probably the main one. What if you buy this for your kids, but you don't want it hooked up to the internet, or have the possibility of not having internet? What if you're on a car trip, and you want to play the xbox on the car trip through the vans tv? What if something happens at Microsoft where the servers go down? What happens to these consoles once the servers are closed down completely down the line?

    I will say this though, this will push devs to code more for multiple cores.
     
  17. Neo Cyrus

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    At least Securom didn't watch you while you're naked, even in the dark.

    So what's their "legit" reason for it seeing infrared light?
     
  18. lucidus

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    Has something to do with rocket science.
     
  19. Loophole35

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    So your going to trust Microsoft lol no thanks this Xbox One will not be coming into my home.
     
  20. Denial

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    How is this any different than any cell phone, laptop, tablet, desktop webcam anyone else has?
     

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