Microsoft will not support older Windows versions on upcoming PC Hardware

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Seems like the crack pipe is again being passed around at MS board level.

    Unless MS are actually trying to get out of enterprise, in this age of austerity and ultra-tight IT budgets, attempting to force enterprise customers to embark on large-scale IT migration projects seems quite suicidal to me.
     
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    I think this is fair, a company upgrading to the the technologies in question, which haven't even come out yet, would most likely be upgrading their support software (the OS) anyway.
     
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    "Compared to Windows 7 PC’s, Skylake when combined with Windows 10, enables up to 30x better graphics"

    Wow. I smell bull****
     

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    2 solutions available to make them "reconsider" and "pay" for their foolishness

    1) Piracy

    2) GNU

    From the era of Windows 7, MS never got into consideration our arguments about the course Windows 8 and their next versions were going. :stewpid:
     
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    "That being said, Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 will continue to receive updates through January 14, 2020 and January 10, 2023 respectively."

    This is what I want to read and its clear enough. ;)
     
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    So desperate.
     
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    Have MS just sealed the fate of hardware companies?

    If I was out for a new build, and I knew I 'had' to install 10 to have it work, I wouldn't buy it
     
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    it's a bit more complicated... in company the update is motivated by 2 thing:

    -the IT needs
    -the comptability service and the law (exemple my telsa unit will cost nothing in 3 year despite the real cost is lot more).

    not taking care about that is the reason why M$ have lost heavy contract with major company in favor of open source and linux distribution (governement, security, industry...) in here.

    globalisation don't mean "everyone with our rule", but "take care of each other rule" (but i know it is hard for US company lol).
     
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    ... on solitaire? :stewpid:
     

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    Translation : Go get a W10 becouse we dont give a sh1t anymore.
     
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    Has Microsoft ever supported newer hardware functionality on older OS's?

    I can't even think of an example of where the OS ties into the processor (aside from driver stuff obviously) like it does in the example they gave.

    I guess I'm not seeing the issue here. It seems like it's the same way it's always been and people are just making a big deal out of it.
     
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    Good. I was waiting for some dumb move like this. Maybe more people will notice Linux.

    Many of my friends are using Windows only because games, but now more and more games works on Linux so... I hope that this is beginning of the end of Windows supremacy (at last).
     
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    Nope, Linux will never take over Windows, Linux is a PITA in just about everything vs Windows, not just game support
     
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    NSA memo to Microsoft:

    "Giving our spyware away for free to your users has not worked - now you must force your users to change to our spyware program. Compensation as always will be handsomely provided. Regards, Global Elite C/A NSA"
     

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    I don't see an issue with this.

    Windows 7 get support until 2020, windows 8.1 2023 - what IT manager would use a system beyond that? They are probably already using windows 10 and have replaced windows 7 anyway.

    I can understand if they are using a legacy application which was a big investment for them and is used across a large userbase, like a POS system, but such a system would already have a replacement/renewal date date already factored in.

    And, are we not talking about pre-built systems here? Not bespoke designs/builds?

    In other words, IF you have got a legit copy and licence of Windows 7 and install it prior to the support date expiring - you can get all the updates you want and run it beyond the expiry date unsupported, on whatever hardware you want.

    What am I missing here?
     
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    Dunno, didn't a lot of businesses pay MS millions for extended XP support not long ago?

    And that airport in France still running 3.1
     
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    Yeah but I don't think those businesses were installing Windows XP on modern hardware, nor were they expecting Microsoft to issue feature upgrades to XP -- they just wanted continuing security updates.

    I really don't see the issue here, at all. If Kabylake ships with a new instruction set, should Windows 7/8 be upgraded to accelerate the OS with those instructions? If Kaby ships with a new security module that can tie into the OS, should 7/8 be upgraded to support that? AVX shipped in 2011 and it was only brought to Windows 7, 8 shipped in 2012 and they didn't backport it to Vista/XP. So there is no precedent for it as far as I know.
     
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    Yes, 7 upwards should be updated to support new hardware, after-all MS customers paid good money for it, it is their duty to keep it updated until it's EOL date, not purposely cripple it to force people to upgrade
     
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    And they could still run it for another 100 years.
    Nothing will change on existing hardware.

    I think it just makes sense not to put a lot work in old systems which run fine on their hardware.
     
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