Microsoft To Launch Windows 10 Creators Update

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  1. Asgardi

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    Oh but that is a built-in problem with the praised lord Win32, designed 20 years ago. But hey its so great and powerful.

    Instead, all modern apps scale perfectly from 4 to 100 inches and from mouse to game pad to touch without developers having to do virtually anything. But who want that crap?
     
  2. Extraordinary

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    Except they're not talking about Win32 programs, they're talking about text
     
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    Windows 10 has been perfect on all my devices since the first anniversary update. Even on my Lenovo tablet which is remarkable as Lenovo only advise sticking with Windows 8.

    The second redstone update will contain plenty of other features that have been mentioned regardless of it being touted as the creators update. This is simple jargon to get designers on-board!
     
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    Ad1. You just want to run your favorite program, what uses 1 thread... Why windows running thousands threads in background when you do not need it?

    Ad2. Windows 10 is slower than windows 7, games on windows 10 are slower than on windows 7, games in dx12 are slower than on dx11... It is not well optimized, and you do not know if tommorow they wont push vista update and you can do nothing

    Ad3. You should blame MS cause that is OS scale system of shared pulpit
     

  5. Denial

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    Wrong.

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    Windows 10 is either better or the same in pretty much every single thing.

    The number of services running in the background is like not even relevant on modern systems. Disable all of them except for the game and you get like an additional frame per second, woopdeedo.
     
  6. PrMinisterGR

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    There is also the case of a weird bios and driver. Do you have a UEFI/GPT installation, or a BIOS/MBR one?

    What's the model of the tablet? You can enter troubleshooting mode just by holding SHIFT when you press "Restart". You can a also do it through the GUI in any device. It's literally the first result in Google when you look for "Windows 10 startup settings". Your issue with the tablet sounds like the manufacturer didn't want to sign their drivers properly and decided to ask you to install them in "Disable Signature Verification" mode. Since you mention this along with how the tablet was "destroyed", my guess is that you most likely f*cked up your partitions by trying to modify them somehow because you were either looking for a non-existent recovery partition, or you didn't know how to do that they asked.
     
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    Your Maxwell GPU is the reason you won't benefit from dx12. Don't blame MS, blame Nvidia. Although Nvidia already has a solution for you: Upgrade to Pascal.
     
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    its the UEFI/GPT

    The tablet is a fresh intel atom Z8300 X5 from Kiano Slimtab PRO 2 - which is basically a Chuwi HI8 PRO but non of the drivers worked from it on my Kiano - all conflicted with it - i do not understand how is this even possible to have an identical set of drivers that do not work at all! What i did to it is install all of the updated drivers from Microsoft and all of the updates possible - then i tried to refresh whole OS which did not worked. I was not touching recovery at all, I was just fixing bluetooth/wifi issues with a driver after the anniversary crippled it.
     
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    Your "Ad2" is wrong on every count.
     
  10. PrMinisterGR

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    Ok, a few things. If it's really the same driver and the same devices, it should work. If it didn't it either meant that the hardware has different descriptors and the drivers won't load, or that the drivers are not digitally signed, and hence won't load. The Anniversary Update made signing mandatory (correctly, you don't want unsigned stuff attaching themselves unknowingly to the kernel), and the developers of the drivers should go on and sign them.

    You are basically blaming Microsoft because of the false claim of the people writing the drivers for your tablet, that they work with the new update.
     

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    Ok I see your point, but how about this thing called Defender ? I am looking at the task manager its eating a lot of drive and cpu while I am trying to watch a video, so i went in to the settings and disabled it. Next day I try to watch another video and the damn Defender is turned ON again eating resources, heating my tablet, loosing frames in the video. How stupid is this ? is it even stable or its worried about my video ? its streamed from my desktop with a proper antivirus there is no risk of infection why oh why i have to go in to the settings and repeat every day or so ?

    This is why i say its the worst windows NT ever - little things wasting your time all over the place. I have not seen a computer with it that did not have at least 1 problem. My sisters laptop was booting with black screen because of antivirus. PC at my work had an sound card updated through windows update which disabled the sound - I had to manually install other one from manufacturers page. Seriously windows 7 was way above in that regard.
    And it is ugly visually, I do not mean the ugliest but in my opinion windows Vista was way better designed
     
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  12. mtrai

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    Defender and Firewall require special procedures to totally disable using both group policy editor and services.msc, so you must have at least win 10 professional.

    Anyhow been a win 10 insider since it started, only had a couple of "game stopping" stopping issue. One goes way back when they were making major changes to the audio stacks and the kernal, and the last insider build 14955 breaks crossfire not sure if does SLI, no it is not the driver reverted to many older ones, once I reverted build 14951 xfire works again.

    IMO defender and the firewall is made hard to impossible to disable for the protection of the masses, if you feel you do not need them, then you should learn to actually be able to disable them.

    My only gripe is actually cortanna, I want her gone but it will break other integrated os things so she lives on in my system but mostly disabled.

    As in all previous versions of Windows you had to learn how to tweak it to run the way you want, these days I do not see the need for a program like winlite with how beefy our cpu's, ram, and hard drives are. I still know how to add, remove and plain out disable stuff as I see fit for my system.
     
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    I was once a skeptic but I am quite pleased with Windows 10. I have the pro version and I have a lot of stuff disabled but I don't see any value in trying to disable defender.
     
  14. mtrai

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    To disable the antimalware service from ever starting...it will spike up to 20% cpu usage for no reason I could find and generally would stay 2-3 to 10% cpu usage the rest of the time.
     
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    Windows 10 is fine with Defer Upgrades enabled and disabing the Windows Update Service and running it when you're ready for your weekly/biweekly updates. Anyone running the Anniversary Update and complaining about stability only have themselves to blame for updating early since it has not been deployed to systems in the Pro branch.
     

  16. PrMinisterGR

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    It has been deployed for Windows 10 Professional, if that's what you mean. What I guess you mean is the Current Branch for Business. It's usually 4 months back, but it does get the patch Tuesday security updates nonetheless.
     

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