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Microsoft Talks About Spectre and Meltdown Patches Performance Impact

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. kruno

    kruno Master Guru

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    Actually just Intel did it
     
  2. Cave Waverider

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    While I haven't benchmarked, my Core i7 3930k/Titan X Pascal 12GB/32GB DDR3/SATA 3 SSDs system definitely feels more sluggish after the KB update on Windows 10 64 bit 1709. Also some games seem to perform slower, especially in regards to loading times but also overall smoothness. It's noticeable or even annoying enough that I'm thinking about rolling back the KB Update.
    On my laptop with Core i7 7700k/GTX 1080 8GB/64GB DDR4/NVMe SSDs, however, there doesn't seem to be a noticeable performance difference, after the update it performs with the same smoothness as it always has and the loading times still appear to be okay.

    If DDR4 prices weren't through the roof at the moment, I'd think about upgrading my desktop, but the way it is right now, it's out of the question.
     
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  3. Ricepudding

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    Using 8700k + 1080ti on the newest bios - microcode and windows update, ive noticed zero performance differences, and in some cases better performance made from certain patches.

    Using m.2 nvme and ssds i've not noticed anything at all. if there is a drop of 1/2% i wouldn't have noticed such a thing
     
  4. typhon6657

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    NVM re ran the test on a new install same performence.
     
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  5. tsunami231

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    I look foward to seeing my dads duo core 8400 becoming even more slow, cause horible slow hdd it installed on to begin with
     
  6. insp1re2600

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    great tool is ubu for quick microcode updates and such. i use it myself. couldnt be simpler.
     
  7. tsunami231

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    that is suggestive, alot people dont want to mess with bios update let alone modify them to update microcodes, majority of public wont do any of this anyway which why it is in MS and CPU makes best interested to have those microcodes pushed threw the OS.

    I able to do this things if i "want" but dont like doing bios updates and sure anit gona modify bios.

    Best solutions for public at large is these mircocodes are pushed threw the OS, another viable option but still probably wont be done by public at large is the cpu makers and oremobo makers release standalone update file that updates the microcode for them. but this option only work if people know about. and are will to do "manual" updates all the other options or even know how to.
     
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  8. KissSh0t

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    I swear my dog could die and Microsoft could get away with using that to sell me on Windows 10.
     
  9. DW75

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    Microsoft can continue with their manipulative garbage all they want. I will never use Windows 10. Oh, pardon me, Spyware 10.
     
  10. rl66

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    "this is not the droids you are searching for"...

    Too much company talk about it right now...

    You can't "brick" a windows system: you just "crash" it, brick is without possible recovery (at least not normal one)
    [​IMG]

    The only way to brick is to crash the bios (ok it can be done by EUFI, but not as 1,2,3 :) )
     

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    * With Windows 8 and Windows 7 on older silicon (2015-era PCs with Haswell or older CPU), we expect most users to notice a decrease in system performance.

    Haswell or older... but what about Windows 7/8 with Skylake CPU (or newer)?
     
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    So for the not so bright out there.. what do we have to do with our older systems?

    CPU i5 2500
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    Waiting for bemchmarks ? Anyone posted something already ? for all combinations.
     
  14. RooiKreef

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    So in a nutshell Microsoft is using Intels flaw to sell more copies of Win 10??? Lol!
     
  15. fantaskarsef

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    The question is, did this exploit just happen to be known for half a year, yet they don't have patches at hand on day 1 of it leaking towards the public months later?
    Is it just a coincidence that they did not talk about it until the "free" upgrades to W10 are no longer available?

    ;)
     

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    Intel pulling a Apple via the slowdown of hardware, but thinking out of the box 25 years in advance as to cover themselves. lol
     
  17. fantaskarsef

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    Hehe that would mean that Intel did a very smart thing there from their business perspective.
    Let's wait another 10-25 years and see what fixes they need for the next (Meltdown and Spectre proof) chips :D
     
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    There seems to be a theme going on here with several companies.


    :rolleyes:
     
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    Why guru3d? Why? Why are there so many conspiracy theory nutjobs throwing around nonsense without any form of even remotely useful facts? Why so much nonsense? What has this forum become?
     
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    Guys regarding the BIOS update, do we have to update only the last BIOS version or more because of the flaws??? For example, Asus has just released a BIOS version two days ago but they also have an older update for the Intel Management Engine, should i get only the last one, the two of them or more???

    Thanks for the help.
     

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