Microsoft removes the application to verify Windows 11 requirements

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Shows how really decided the Microsoft Windows team is. Or just another test for them and beta-testers responded. Heavily overpriced TPM modules and endless discussions.
    Never change Microsoft. Cements my decision even more to stay away from Windows in my personal computing.
     
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    Computing devices with screen sizes smaller than 9-inches and resolution less than 720p will not be compatible with Windows 11.:mad:
     
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    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    Anyone else remember when Microsoft said Windows '95 needed just 4MB of RAM; when in reality is was clearly 8MB, with 16MB being pretty much god mode?
     
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    And i was a "conspirationist" telling that this tool wasn't accurate... lol
     
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    DocStr4ngelove Maha Guru

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    Getting bribes from all hardware companies and then telling everybody their PCs are not up to the task of running Win11.

    Nice try MS.
     
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    All this shows is that developers and software engineers are not necessarily competent communicators or strategists. In fact they can be idiots outside their specialized fields.
     
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    My guess is the fact it didn’t actually inform you as to why your PC was incompatible is the reason it was pulled, don’t be surprised if an updated version appears that just tells you what’s wrong with zero changes to the actual requirements to install Windows 11.
     
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    Just bought a tpm 2 module for under 13 euro, just hope that I get it at that price :)
     
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    Maybe the NSA told them that all the "terrorists", that they want the backdoor TPM key storage system to work with, only have older machines with 1.2 modules. Wouldn't want the US government encryption backdoor to only work on people with newer fancier PCs would we...
     
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    I remember clearly at the time Windows 10 was released; Microsoft said they would not be releasing any more new versions of Windows - yet here we are!

    Additionally, over many years (and many Windows iterations), I remember clearly that Microsoft, when releasing new versions of Windows would post system requirements that had nothing to do with hardware level security - it was all about system performance levels - do you have enough RAM?; do you have an adequate CPU? Ect, ect.

    Let me say it clearly, I prefer the system performance paradigm over the hardware security paradigm. Or to put it another way; Microsoft needs to make their Windows environment as secure as they possibly can, and permit me the free liberty to take the necessary steps to make my rig (hardware) as secure as I possibly can!!
     
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    To be fair that was one random developer.

    Why can't it be both paradigms? Wouldn't that be a better strategy to make computing more secure?
     
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    How will they know if my screen is larger than 9"?
     
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    - Windows 10 is the last, we will continue to update it.
    - There is no Windows 11
    - Hello to the new Windows 11
    - Windows 10 will be no more after 2025
    - TPM 2.0 is required, it's a great time to buy a new PC!
    - Well we are pasted&copied by OEM full system manufactures specifications, but we cannot tell you that.
    - DirectStorage needs at least 1TB of space!
    - You can verify with app.
    - TPM 1.2 is also fine
    - We updated the app.
    - DirectStorage doesn't really need at least 1TB
    - TPM 2.0 only, TPM 1.2 no more fine
    - TPM 2.0 is required because on enterprise ecosystems most of attacks can be mitigated or nullified by TPM 2.0 technologies.
    - Special OEM and custom ISOs mostly like for enterprise ecosystems can bypass TPM checks.
    - There is no real technical reason for hardware restrictions, but you will love it.
    - Screw you gamers and casual users, you need TPM 2.0, no ryzen 1.0 or previous, no core 7xxx or previous.
    - To be honest you can simply add 2 registry entries before installation and bypass it all, like it is on Virtual Machines (that runs even on single core, 2GB or less memory and WDDM 1.0 graphics!). You can even install it on VM and clone after on disc from VHD..But we cannot tell you this.
    - App to verify is no more.
     
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    They don't care. It's an oem system requirement.
     

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    Do you have a link to clarify the identity of the "random" developer mentioned here?

    BTW, if you read my statement (expressed in the last paragraph); I do permit both paradigms...Microsoft makes their software as secure as possible, and I make my computer as secure as possible. It is not an issue as to whether both paradigms should exist; it is rather an issue of how they are promulgated.
     
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    Yeah, like I said - one random developer... that's it. Just some Jerry guy at Ignite. No official blog or statement by Microsoft. No comment from anyone actually running any of these teams. No removal of the number 10 - that you'd expect.. just "Windows". It was just one comment at ignite that sparked that whole thing. Even back then I said it was probably just a miscommunication.. that an announcement that big would come from higher up and be pushed as a bigger deal.

    I'm also not really sure why it matters anyway.. each subsequent Windows 10 release served as a demarcation point as far as system requirements go. Windows 11 just changes a few more.
     
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    WhyNotWin11 is a VASTLY superior tool anyway and the author is constantly releasing updates.
     
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    installed then disabled tpm
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