Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Mar 30, 2020.
No, cmd.exe is not command.com ... if you meant that.
It is not a part of Windows. DOS is operating system with its own API - there is no DOS API in Windows. When you start cmd.exe (command prompt) and execute commands or console apps all of them use Windows API.
You can`t execute app created for DOS in 64-bit Windows, but you can in 32-bit Windows because DOS is emulated there.
BTW.: I bet the same will happen like back then when they first removed the start menu from Desktop on Win8:
Some "ClassicShell ControlPanel" will pop up out of the shadows ...
Dude it's the only thing that made Windows 8 bearable...... and the same is still true with 10.
Exactly. I haven't used the old control panel since Windows 10 came out. Pressing the Windows 10 key or right clicking on the Windows icon gives me everything I want much faster.
I fully agree on Win8 (and 8.1), but if you take 1 minute on Win10 you can uninstall / remove all the pinned apps from the initial start menu and basically have a Win7 start menu with some extras (which I personally enjoy, really).
no you don't
To me the start menu in 10 is superior to 7. For one, its expandable and more configurable. Also can live without the CP easily too, since the applets still exist outside of the CP and can make shortcuts to them. In the natural evolution of things, people will grumble and resist change, but more often than not, when they get used to it things begin to feel more natural or logical.
Yes I do.
No, you really don't.
Why don't you actually poke around startmenu's on both, or actually, just test with and without start10, the Win7 start menu has numerous things it does better than 10's.
I just like control panel having everything in one place neatly and easily accessible. Settings lacks many things you can access via control panel still. Which is annoying.
From your point of view. There can`t be objective approach here.
There isn't an objective approach from anyone claiming 10's start menu is comparable to 7 or 8's.
There is functionality not only changed but also missing in 10's.
Open Location for instance opens the shortcuts location in the startmenu directory, not the applications location on 10, where as it opens the applications location on 7.
Start folder expanding shows everything on the top level folder even if they are set in additionally deeper paths on 10.
There are frequent occasions where a newly made shortcut in the Programs root folder will not appear in the start list at all without purging the startmenu's registry cache.
Not a single example of missing functionality.
Open Location opening the shortcuts location is more practical action - here you can (1) change the shortcut properties and (2) jump to actual executable file location.
And menu in Win7 not showing everything on the top - obvious minus because you should dig further.
Damn it.. I knew this was coming eventually but I had hoped we were still a few years away from them getting rid of the old control panel.
On both you click on the logo and it opens. Your argument is invalid.
Any statement here is a personal opinion, besides some hard facts (but not in my comment). So why don't you leave my opinion be? What's so important to change it?
Yes, I do have this opinion. If you take a minute you could change the Win10 start menu so it almost looks like the one of Win7, plus some extras on top. That's what I said and believe, therefore I made the comment.
Forcing someone to believe dictated opinions is so 1933 ...
No, you can't.
I shouldn't have several hundred shortcuts to scan through in a Startmenu > Games folder that used to break those games down by publisher or studio just because Windows 10 decided to be autistic.
Applications that also have Uninstallers, readme's or webshortcuts created on install which make sense under their own folder but not listed all together.
I was told elsewhere that the control panel will not be removed, just hidden... more than it already is... for the reason of.. "so people don't go messing with things they don't understand"......
Has Microsoft said anything officially what the intent is regarding the Control Panel?
LOL Yes. I have plenty of free time so I can continue "YES - NO" contest if it pleases you.
I don`t get the obsession with start menu at all. Since WinXP I use it may be once in several months. All shortcuts I need (no more than 20) I have at my desktop and taskbar.
What are you talking about
- there are folders in start menu, and there is no Games folder in my start menu.
Where can I get Win 10 1933?