Microsoft Game Pass subscription for PC rises from 4 to 10 euros per month

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  1. nick0323

    nick0323 Master Guru

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    Well they said at the start it would be £4 in beta and would rise once out of beta to £8. Might as well go for Ultimate if you have an Xbox for £11. Unless that's going up too?
     
  2. Khronikos

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    Oh procreating BS lol. Steam has already said if something happened they would make the games available as they could. Stop trying to apologize for subscription based services. STEAM IS NOT A SUBSCRIPTION service. It requires no fee. The rhetoric and BS you have to create to try and make this an equivalency is ridiculous lol.

    YOU OWN NOTHING with subs like PS+ and Xbox BS. PERIOD. It's absolutely nothing like Steam. Cancel your sub, and YOU HAVE NO GAMES GENIUS. Steam has nothing to cancel. THE END.
     
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  4. PrMinisterGR

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    Please provide a link with an official Valve statement about this, and not a forum post where someone "was told by customer service that `of course Valve will allow this`".

    Please read this URL out loud.
    https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

    [​IMG]
    I know, hard to imagine, right?

    Valve, the saviour of PC gaming, lel.

    Steam is a subscription with a different payment model.

    You. Still. Own. Nothing.

    Valve bans accounts and you lose your "purchased" games.

    https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/322591/Valve_bans_over_90000_Steam_accounts_in_one_week.php
     
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    while this is true, if you expected them to keep giving out a sub for a dollar you'd have to be really bad with money. M$ wears their intentions on their sleeves.
     
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    in uk i get charged 10.99 a month for game pass
     
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  9. PrMinisterGR

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    You understand this means nothing right? And there are account bans, and Steam is a subscription service. Because it's Valve and it's a piece of software (not even a good one, to be honest), that you're all familiar with, it doesn't mean it's not a subscription service from a corp that is privately held.

    If you want to keep your games get them from GOG.
     
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    The only reason you can still do, is because they don't want to lose face publicly. You have zero rights on "your" games according to their subscriber EULA.
     
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    to get an account ban on steam, you need to be particpating in fraud.
     
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  12. PrMinisterGR

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    All this is just highlighting how nicely Valve holds mindshare in the PC community.

    If you want to see your "rights" over "your" software, read the subscriber EULA. In short, you have none. You don't purchase games, you purchase a subscription to play said game, lasting as long as Valve sees fit.

    They have different marketing optics, but in their substance it's the same thing as the GamePass with a different subscription model. Valve's gives you more choice, but it's more expensive and that's it.
     
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    @PrMinisterGR You talk the truth. It's brutal but all this era of information, we don't really own anything. Decades now. Digital explosion lead us to only pay and own nothing, because others take care of the rest. Reality is just extra info and hidden rules blended with tiny letters and profound words.

    But it is not only software and information systems.

    Also, new devices are under some kind of subscription due to automated data centers. Manufacturers don't really acknowledge you if you don't register your S/N and isn't found in their database for any reason. You only hold the receipt and you pray that they'll accept to fix your device in the future.
     
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    Yep, if Valve closes down , you loose the license (which is to play on the Steam platform only). You may get new keys from publishers if they show pity since current one do not work (unless there is some sort of import function, like gog and ubisoft have shown in the past).
    Some games do not have a digital CD key though , so its gonna be a mess.

    Nothing last forever, just enjoy it while it lasts.
     
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    No, I can actually play these games offline. Believe it fool.
     

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    Yes, with a crack. Most of these games have extra protection on top of Steam anyway. Steam doesn't allow you to play infinitely offline anyway, and you admitting that you would have to go around Stream itself to do it, really displays the moronic core of this argument.

    An argument that shouldn't exist the moment you read the first line of the Steam EULA. Pathetic fanboyism.
     
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    What a pointless argument, if you want to "own" the game then buy it digitally on somewhere like Steam, if like me you have no interest in hoarding digitally or otherwise then save money and pay for a streaming service.

    Not everyone will save money, but me and my boy have saved hundreds since we started using these services.
    The other benefit i wasn't expecting is that I'm playing games i didn't expect to to like and would never have bought previously.

    Not been keeping up recently so EA play is news to me, to the point I didn't even know it had been renamed but seems like a nice addition.
     
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  18. Khronikos

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    Valve is going nowhere. Offline is meant to be indefinite fool. Have you ever even played offline on Steam child? You don't have to check in. Most games are literally indefinite play offline.

    Some games have their own DRM. Most games do not. Stop trying to move goalposts with your shoddy logic. You own nothing, and can play nothing offline with your streaming service. THE END.
     
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    No one is pretending anyone owns anything with a streaming service though, everyone knows it's a Netflix style service.

    It's not for everyone, especially if you are into building collections, but personally I'm not interested in wasting a lot of money to "own" games that I have no interest in ever playing again once I finish them.
     
  20. PrMinisterGR

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    Talking about moving goal posts:

    "Indefinite" := never restart the computer, never use the internet

    Lol

    So, any comment on the actual Steam SUBSCRIBER agreement? For the games you "own"?

    And since you call me child, it's very interesting to remember that Steam was a cancer that anyone wanting to play Half-Life 2 had to install. When Valve wanted to push it they didn't give a crap of what anyone thought or wanted, but I guess you were not around then either.

    So, not THE END. Arguing that Steam is not a subscription because you don't pay per month, but per title, it's like saying economics is about money.

    It only sounds correct until the moment your brain is supposed to fire up.
     

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